Fears and Rooting - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have always rooted my phones. I've walked out of the Sprint store and rooted my last phone after getting a refurbed phone from insurance. This time with my new note 4, it seems different. I am half afraid to because of the Knox tripping. What happens if say in 1 year my phone has some sort of issue and I need to turn it back in for insurance? Before I just un-rooted and took it back in. Now there is no reverse for the knox. I could really care less for the knox and have no need for it.
Any suggestions for calming my fear?

jeepers128 said:
I have always rooted my phones. I've walked out of the Sprint store and rooted my last phone after getting a refurbed phone from insurance. This time with my new note 4, it seems different. I am half afraid to because of the Knox tripping. What happens if say in 1 year my phone has some sort of issue and I need to turn it back in for insurance? Before I just un-rooted and took it back in. Now there is no reverse for the knox. I could really care less for the knox and have no need for it.
Any suggestions for calming my fear?
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I'm in the same boat as you man. This is the 1st device I haven't rooted in many years. The main reason that I'm not is I'm on the easy pay plan so in one years time I walk in to sprint, hand them this, pay the taxes which are next to nothing, and walk out with the note 5. So long as I don't mess with it. Which btw so far if you do root you will trip Knox and currently there is no way to reverse it. I'm kinda ok with it with this device though as I had the Note 2 before this running cm11 and while it was good something always went wrong somewhere. I'd take a pic and the phone would freeze or something and never ended up getting the pic/vid so it's kinda nice having a device as good as this and everything actually works.
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t4d73 said:
I'm in the same boat as you man. This is the 1st device I haven't rooted in many years. The main reason that I'm not is I'm on the easy pay plan so in one years time I walk in to sprint, hand them this, pay the taxes which are next to nothing, and walk out with the note 5. So long as I don't mess with it. Which btw so far if you do root you will trip Knox and currently there is no way to reverse it. I'm kinda ok with it with this device though as I had the Note 2 before this running cm11 and while it was good something always went wrong somewhere. I'd take a pic and the phone would freeze or something and never ended up getting the pic/vid so it's kinda nice having a device as good as this and everything actually works.
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I didn't or haven't yet added $10.00 early upgrade option to my account. Frankly I forgot about it until you mentioned it.

t4d73 said:
I'm in the same boat as you man. This is the 1st device I haven't rooted in many years. The main reason that I'm not is I'm on the easy pay plan so in one years time I walk in to sprint, hand them this, pay the taxes which are next to nothing, and walk out with the note 5. So long as I don't mess with it. Which btw so far if you do root you will trip Knox and currently there is no way to reverse it. I'm kinda ok with it with this device though as I had the Note 2 before this running cm11 and while it was good something always went wrong somewhere. I'd take a pic and the phone would freeze or something and never ended up getting the pic/vid so it's kinda nice having a device as good as this and everything actually works.
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To my knowledge tripping KNOX does not affect your upgrade eligibility. The policy simply says the phone must still be in good condition. That is all. They just want to be able to sell it a refurb and they can actually have it sent to Samsung and have KNOX reset. It can be done with JTAG equipment and knowing which bit needs to be flipped.

Solarenemy68 said:
To my knowledge tripping KNOX does not affect your upgrade eligibility. The policy simply says the phone must still be in good condition. That is all. They just want to be able to sell it a refurb and they can actually have it sent to Samsung and have KNOX reset. It can be done with JTAG equipment and knowing which bit needs to be flipped.
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Maybe. But they did say they cannot accept a rooted device. Whether or not they actually knew what they were talking about I don't really know. But there are ways to bring it back to stock though.
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t4d73 said:
I'm in the same boat as you man. This is the 1st device I haven't rooted in many years. The main reason that I'm not is I'm on the easy pay plan so in one years time I walk in to sprint, hand them this, pay the taxes which are next to nothing, and walk out with the note 5. So long as I don't mess with it. Which btw so far if you do root you will trip Knox and currently there is no way to reverse it. I'm kinda ok with it with this device though as I had the Note 2 before this running cm11 and while it was good something always went wrong somewhere. I'd take a pic and the phone would freeze or something and never ended up getting the pic/vid so it's kinda nice having a device as good as this and everything actually works.
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I'm on the easy pay plan
I rooted the same day i got it
Nothing to be afraid of sprint doesn't check if you're rooted or not
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I'm a technician for Sprint and it isn't that big of a deal since we can just flash it all back to stock. And for upgrade purposes the reps in my store don't even know what rooting is so it shouldn't be a huge issue for that either.
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tjward5489 said:
I'm a technician for Sprint and it isn't that big of a deal since we can just flash it all back to stock. And for upgrade purposes the reps in my store don't even know what rooting is so it shouldn't be a huge issue for that either.
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Thanks. That's good to know. I've rooted and flashed many custom roms for years but never really knew that end of it. What about the KNOX tripping thing? I thought I heard before here on xda of people all of a sudden getting whacked with a $400 or so hit on their bills because they messed with their devices. Any insight on that? Or is that a non issue these days?
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I've not heard that charge before.

jeepers128 said:
I've not heard that charge before.
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Yeah I'm not even sure how true that is. I think I'm gonna root tonight. If anything I'll at least be able to get rid of all the damn ads on this thing. That's one of the most annoying things about not being rooted. Lol.
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t4d73 said:
Yeah I'm not even sure how true that is. I think I'm gonna root tonight. If anything I'll at least be able to get rid of all the damn ads on this thing. That's one of the most annoying things about not being rooted. Lol.
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I think I am going to root it too!

jeepers128 said:
I think I am going to root it too!
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Just make sure you know how to fix/solve issues should they arise.
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t4d73 said:
Just make sure you know how to fix/solve issues should they arise.
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What problems are you talking about? I've rooted a lot of phones over the years. Just wasn't sure about knox. Otherwise it was a go!

jeepers128 said:
What problems are you talking about? I've rooted a lot of phones over the years. Just wasn't sure about knox. Otherwise it was a go!
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rooting itself causes no problems. -_- Problems arise when you start using titanium backup or removing apks manually, and you don't know EXACTLY what they do. Many resources out there will tell you, and sometimes a friendly question in a thread may solve your problems quickly. One good lol for you is : If you use xposed thats typically going to get blamed first for your issues xD

jeepers128 said:
What problems are you talking about? I've rooted a lot of phones over the years. Just wasn't sure about knox. Otherwise it was a go!
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What he said. ^^
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Im a sales rep at a sprint store and I can say with certainty that we do not check to see if a phone is rooted when we do a giveback on them. honestly the only thing we check is if it turns on and if the screen is broken. most of us wouldn't care regardless, ive even given advice on rooting to a few customers ive helped.

SkyeTheGuy said:
Im a sales rep at a sprint store and I can say with certainty that we do not check to see if a phone is rooted when we do a giveback on them. honestly the only thing we check is if it turns on and if the screen is broken. most of us wouldn't care regardless, ive even given advice on rooting to a few customers ive helped.
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I learned about rooting long time ago from a service tech

Just be ready to pay the premium.
jeepers128 said:
I have always rooted my phones. I've walked out of the Sprint store and rooted my last phone after getting a refurbed phone from insurance. This time with my new note 4, it seems different. I am half afraid to because of the Knox tripping. What happens if say in 1 year my phone has some sort of issue and I need to turn it back in for insurance? Before I just un-rooted and took it back in. Now there is no reverse for the knox. I could really care less for the knox and have no need for it.
Any suggestions for calming my fear?
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I see it this way - you have to by insurance anyways. I could buy a house with what I have given Asurion over the years. If my phone goes down it costs $200 to get another. If I have to trade it in the claim will be for broken hardware. They will get enough pieces to identify what it was.
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t4d73 said:
What he said. ^^
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The only problem I'm worried about is that I won't get my copy of 5.0 if I root before I get it. Is there a way around that?
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t4d73 said:
Maybe. But they did say they cannot accept a rooted device. Whether or not they actually knew what they were talking about I don't really know. But there are ways to bring it back to stock though.
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I think you are fine on a trade because the only reason you would need to trade is if it is not working. If it is for a repair it is going to be the hardware anyways. I've taken rotted phones in for repair and they didn't even know.
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planb234 said:
I see it this way - you have to by insurance anyways. I could buy a house with what I have given Asurion over the years. If my phone goes down it costs $200 to get another. If I have to trade it in the claim will be for broken hardware. They will get enough pieces to identify what it was.
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The only problem I'm worried about is that I won't get my copy of 5.0 if I root before I get it. Is there a way around that?
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I think you are fine on a trade because the only reason you would need to trade is if it is not working. If it is for a repair it is going to be the hardware anyways. I've taken rotted phones in for repair and they didn't even know.
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Is there a way to bring it back to stock right now. I've never owned a phone this close to it's release date. I haven't had a chance to look in to what's out there yet. I want to root with just ADB and not use a recovery but I can't get the USB through with out superuser and if I did get him in there I think he would be dead before I could tell him about the Knox.

question... Just to be sure...
I have been waiting to see the lollipop update before rooting my note 4.
But... if I were to root the phone (and add TWRP)... but did not install a new rom, would I still be able to get the OTA update from Sprint without issue? Will the OTA break root? Could the update brick my phone?

Alright Im also in the same boat as you guys. I been rooting phone since htc hero loll. Slow piece of **** lol. Anyway im scared of tripping knox and having a fear if anything happen to my phone like crack screen water damage etc. I have a best buy insurance and not sure if i do root it and best buy can still find out if my phone is rooted and my warranty is voided after that so waste of $12 a month. So what should I do?

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****Is there a way to unroot? ****

I want to bring my SG2 back in to exchange because I noticed there is " one " dead/stuck pixel, that is colored RED. I just don't like my brand new device starting off being un-perfect. It's two days old.
Is there a way to unroot the phone?
no there is not....thats why i dont root till there is an unroot method
lol, nope. i looked and looked everywhere. could not find it anywhere on the net. my device was stuck in bootloop. after waiting for a while for stock rom to come out, and not seeing any advancement. i decided to purposely brick the device and go exchange it, worked like a charm.
u can wait 2 c if a stock rom comes out within ur 14 day period.
510jungleboy said:
I want to bring my SG2 back in to exchange because I noticed there is " one " dead/stuck pixel, that is colored RED. I just don't like my brand new device starting off being un-perfect. It's two days old.
Is there a way to unroot the phone?
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This is why i'm never in a hurry to jump on the root bandwagon until there is a method to go back to stock firmware. Sorry mate.
vikramjatt11 said:
lol, nope. i looked and looked everywhere. could not find it anywhere on the net. my device was stuck in bootloop. after waiting for a while for stock rom to come out, and not seeing any advancement. i decided to purposely brick the device and go exchange it, worked like a charm.
u can wait 2 c if a stock rom comes out within ur 14 day period.
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Although I was thinking the same thing, that's a big gamble to take. Since some people is reporting that Sprint doesn't care if the phone is rooted or not, I'm gonna just go to the sprint store to see if i can just exchange mine even though it's rooted.
plmiller0905 said:
Although I was thinking the same thing, that's a big gamble to take. Since some people is reporting that Sprint doesn't care if the phone is rooted or not, I'm gonna just go to the sprint store to see if i can just exchange mine even though it's rooted.
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They might care now. Problem is Sprint lacks the tools to remove root on this device. So they might have to deny you.
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Just don't tell them its rooted.... I guarantee most of the employees won't know the difference....the ones that do probably wouldn't care
plmiller0905 said:
Although I was thinking the same thing, that's a big gamble to take. Since some people is reporting that Sprint doesn't care if the phone is rooted or not, I'm gonna just go to the sprint store to see if i can just exchange mine even though it's rooted.
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Yes there is a way to unroot I believe. Re run the root script and it will un root. We did the same thing for og epic or use odin with stock tar and no more root
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Just brick your device like the Dev did
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tomyboombotz said:
Just brick your device like the Dev did
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Lol ..... I dont want to start a trend for myself. I have never bricked a device , but I know the saying " never say never ".
Is there a stock tar?
jbadboy2007 said:
Yes there is a way to unroot I believe. Re run the root script and it will un root. We did the same thing for og epic or use odin with stock tar and no more root
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They might care now. Problem is Sprint lacks the tools to remove root on this device. So they might have to deny you.
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yup...they did...lol. They told me I had to return it to stock. Then went on to tell me that they're sure the issues I'm having in regards to losing data etc...is because sprint is updating their towers where I live...I thought this was bs.
But anyway, I left the store, turned on 4g to see if that service was available in my area yet...and boom...it connected.
So maybe he was telling the truth, because just a month ago there was no 4g at all here where I live.
But nevertheless, the stock tar/kernel should be posted today or within the next few days. Apparently bubby..is just about to release it

Did I brick my S3?

Okay, I got a Galaxy S3 about a week ago, rooted, installed rom manager and left it mostly alone...... Today I tried to install a rom and it is now completely unresponsive(no matter what buttons I hold down)
This is what I did:
1. Flash Clockwork using Rom Manager
2. selected "Install rom from SD" and picekd the rom I had downloaded(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735850)
3. rom tried to install but failed, error code 7 i believe
4. CWR warned me that the phone might try to Flash the system recovery on boot and asked if I wanted to prevent it... so I let it do it's think
5. phone *reboots* but does not turn back on.....
When I plug it in to the computer it is recognized for a second(windows does the usb beep) then fails....this also happens when I try the button combinations
Pulling the battery/sd has NOT helped
flashed an international rom phone might be bricked. Hopefully it didn't actually flash and you can odin the phone back to stock.
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flashed an international rom phone might be bricked. Hopefully it didn't actually flash and you can odin the phone back to stock.
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How would I do that?
This is the reason why manufacturers are locking bootloaders....
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XshinysuicuneX said:
How would I do that?
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Can you get your phone in download mode? if yes then download t-mobile stock rom and run odin then click on pda and insert the stock t-mobile rom you downloaded....
Bricked you are my friend.
htc fan89 said:
This is the reason why manufacturers are locking bootloaders....
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Can you get your phone in download mode? if yes then download t-mobile stock rom and run odin then click on pda and insert the stock t-mobile rom you downloaded....
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No, I can't unfortunately....... Is there any way to un-brick it(I can't get it replaced by t-mo because I got it on ebay) whether it be a paid service or some magic combination of holding down the buttons?
XshinysuicuneX said:
No, I can't unfortunately....... Is there any way to un-brick it(I can't get it replaced by t-mo because I got it on ebay) whether it be a paid service or some magic combination of holding down the buttons?
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Only other option is to use jtag, but not sure that would help.
XshinysuicuneX said:
No, I can't unfortunately....... Is there any way to un-brick it(I can't get it replaced by t-mo because I got it on ebay) whether it be a paid service or some magic combination of holding down the buttons?
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http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
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Jtag I beleive is your only hope. When you are at the tmo thread search jtag or google it.
Actually here you go
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
this thing has a mind of it's own
and next time make sure u flash a rom for tmobile GALAXY S III T999!!!
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one more thing! you have a one year warranty from samsung and since the tmobile galaxy s3 isnt 1 year old you should be able to send it in. this happened to me when i bricked my s2 and they repaired it and had it back to me in about a week and a half
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saldebot said:
Jtag I beleive is your only hope. When you are at the tmo thread search jtag or google it.
Actually here you go
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this thing has a mind of it's own
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Yeah, I was afraid that was gonna be my only option :/
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and next time make sure u flash a rom for tmobile GALAXY S III T999!!!
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one more thing! you have a one year warranty from samsung and since the tmobile galaxy s3 isnt 1 year old you should be able to send it in. this happened to me when i bricked my s2 and they repaired it and had it back to me in about a week and a half
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Unfortunately Since I bought it on craigslist(even though it was new, sealed in the package) and not from a T-Mo store, they won't let me replace it
XshinysuicuneX said:
Unfortunately Since I bought it on craigslist(even though it was new, sealed in the package) and not from a T-Mo store, they won't let me replace it
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I thought you said ebay? Well it doesn't matter, he talks about manufacturer warranty(samsung) and not tmobile.
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I thought you said ebay? Well it doesn't matter, he talks about manufacturer warranty(samsung) and not tmobile.
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Mistyped....... And how would I go about getting samsung to replace my phone? I already made a Samsung account, but when I try to register the phone to my account it wants to know where/when it was originally purchased...... Things that I don't know
If you do the exchange through tmo, it will go through just fine regardless of where you bought it. This is not an invite to argue, I'm stating facts from experience.
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If you do the exchange through tmo, it will go through just fine regardless of where you bought it. This is not an invite to argue, I'm stating facts from experience.
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You sure they still do that? I know I've bought a phone on craigs.. had a problem called T-Mobile and got a replacement, but I tried to do that last month with a s2 but since it wasn't bought on my account they said they wouldn't replace it.
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You sure they still do that? I know I've bought a phone on craigs.. had a problem called T-Mobile and got a replacement, but I tried to do that last month with a s2 but since it wasn't bought on my account they said they wouldn't replace it.
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I suppose they could have changed it since I did it the last time (Sept) but that would be crazy if they did. I get most of my phones by trading etc. And have always had them replace phones if needed (since g1 times). But I've never actually said to them that I didn't buy it new, and I've never had them ask. Maybe it's one of those things that it would be too much work to keep track of, but they can deny it if they know? Cause it could be from a different line on the account that had an exchange a few months ago so the imei wouldn't match the receipt anyways. They would need to hire an entire department to go through all of the exchanges.
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This is why people shouldn't hack their phones unless they educate themselves on what they r doing. Good Luck
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JTAG it from mobiletechvideos. Don't use the warranty method. You made the mistake so man up and pay the $60 or so it will cost for them to fix it. They have great support and will keep you informed the whole way through. Using the warranty method will just jack insurance and cost up for everybody that does their homework before flashing willy nilly. Good luck.
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I just got my phone back from MobileTechVideos.COM and it works perfect. They are the best hope if you hard brick.

if i root the s3

i have a tmobile galaxy s3 if i root it will i lose the insurance that i have on my phone ?? i know is a stupid question i just want to be 100 percent sure
Yes
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Depends on the insurance. Need more info. Also a diff between rooting and being caught rooting. If it is working enough for them to tell you rooted on a claim it is working enough to reverse before you send it in. Some insurance don't care either way.
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I believe you can always unroot it/use triangle away and it will seem as if you did nothing to it. Just don't be stupid and hard brick it
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If your able to restore stock whitout trouble you can !
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If you shatter your phone and they replace it I don't think they will have a problem replacing it if its rooted.
Besides, if your really paranoid just tell them you dropped it in a lake, (It happened to me once).
um I have asurion as insurance i dont know if by more info this is what you meant.
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Depends on the insurance. Need more info. Also a diff between rooting and being caught rooting. If it is working enough for them to tell you rooted on a claim it is working enough to reverse before you send it in. Some insurance don't care either way.
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thank you all for your replies. I am really a noob when it comes to rooting any phone i once manage to root a g2x with alot of videos lol but yeah i wish to root my galaxy so i can use the siaxis app but i dont want to lose my insurance
Warranty yes, insurance no. Rooting voids your warranty, not your insurance. Insurance covers physical damage, so if you hard brick your phone, just to be safe you "accidentally" dropped it in the bathtub.
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thank you very much
Towle said:
Warranty yes, insurance no. Rooting voids your warranty, not your insurance. Insurance covers physical damage, so if you hard brick your phone, just to be safe you "accidentally" dropped it in the bathtub.
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I think you'd win in small claims if Samsung denied you warranty because you rooted your device, assuming there is a product defect.
To be honest there's also a choice DONT ROOT. It seems like it's all new to you, and believe me Samsung phones are way easier to brick than LG or HTC if you don't read carefully. Look if it's worth the risk playing a android game with a ps3 controller or loosing your phone for a period of time. If you go ahead and do it make sure you BACK UP YOUR EMEI, many times that gets overlooked when it's really the most important thing in your phone.
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I think you'd win in small claims if Samsung denied you warranty because you rooted your device, assuming there is a product defect.
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thank you
daxecutioner24 said:
To be honest there's also a choice DONT ROOT. It seems like it's all new to you, and believe me Samsung phones are way easier to brick than LG or HTC if you don't read carefully. Look if it's worth the risk playing a android game with a ps3 controller or loosing your phone for a period of time. If you go ahead and do it make sure you BACK UP YOUR EMEI, many times that gets overlooked when it's really the most important thing in your phone.
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thank you.... im scared to root my phone so im still thinking
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thank you.... im scared to root my phone so im still thinking
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Just read, read, read. Then read some more. Make sure you fully understand every possible thing that can go wrong (I.e. Losing imei) and how to fix it. If you know what can happen, and how it happens, you will know how to avoid those things. Never have the "I will cross that bridge when I get there" attitude. Almost everything that can go wrong is 100% preventable/curable if you know about it ahead of time. If you don't feel like you can explain to someone else how to root or fix their phone, you're not ready yet.
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Georican said:
thank you.... im scared to root my phone so im still thinking
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No problem haven't rooted mine and I rooted every other phone I have. I just feel android is android it all looks the same. Not much difference between roms apart from the speed with build props and bloatware free. While you can always prepared yourself 100 percent there's always that random encounter that you can get with electronics that is not your fault and just happens.
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Knox and JUMP!

If the Knox counter gets tripped, will that affect me trading in my phone with T-Mobile's JUMP! Program?
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Good question. I gave in my girls HTC sensation today, rooted running AOKP, they rebooted it, saw the custom boot ani, and still gave us $65. Maybe withb jump they check more thoroughly?
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Warrior1975 said:
Good question. I gave in my girls HTC sensation today, rooted running AOKP, they rebooted it, saw the custom boot ani, and still gave us $65. Maybe withb jump they check more thoroughly?
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Lol that hilarious. All I have found is that they say it must be in working condition and no cracked screen. And it must boot and function properly.
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paul89 said:
If the Knox counter gets tripped, will that affect me trading in my phone with T-Mobile's JUMP! Program?
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Please excuse my ignorance but what is knox, thanks
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vw65bus said:
Please excuse my ignorance but what is knox, thanks
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Never mind I found it thanks
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The guy who sold me the Note 3 was into custom ROMs. When I mentioned Knox efuse and trade in with Jump he said no one there would even know what to look for at trade in and that flashing should be fine. He said the same thing about warranty returns. The insurance company would just take back the device.
But...he did mention that trade ins with Jump would end up as refurb devices. So its possible that there might be someone along the repair service chain knows whats what.
I traded my note 2 in today, running tweaked rom and custom recovery. Still got $275 for it. A lot of the phones get wiped and reflashed without even being checked to see if they were tampered with
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I couldn't believe they were offering so much for the Note 2. I almost dumped mine. I'm selling it to one of my employees already. Only 300, I wish I didn't commit, I would have sold it today, instead of waiting a month for my money.
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Note 2's probably going to go on sale like the s3 did when s4 came out and s3' were selling like mad because the price drop so maybe they want to have refurb stock to offer in case demand gets high and they run out of new note 2's due to a sale on note 2' s
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When processing a trade in the only things the computer asks is
Water damage
Does it turn on
Is the screen broken
Is their physical damage
They also gave me $275 for my Note 2. JediX19. They didn't care at all.
$275? I wish I wasn't such a nice guy sometimes. I ended up giving my mother in law my Note II.
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The guy who sold me the Note 3 was into custom ROMs. When I mentioned Knox efuse and trade in with Jump he said no one there would even know what to look for at trade in and that flashing should be fine. He said the same thing about warranty returns. The insurance company would just take back the device.
But...he did mention that trade ins with Jump would end up as refurb devices. So its possible that there might be someone along the repair service chain knows whats what.
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I don't think the eFuse matters unless you're getting it warranty repaired by Samsung and even then, they may not bother to check if there's no custom ROM running. Most people don't know about it or even care. I sent a Droid4 to Moto for warranty repair and there is something similar (it may or may not be the same) that gets flipped when it's rooted. They didn't care and repaired the defect.
Just found this thread Googling for the same thing. I was told by the guy at the T-Mobile I went to that they don't care at the store when trading it in, but he's not sure what would happen when it got to wherever they send it and see it tripped.
Basically what happens is if it is tripped your rights to the extended warranty are revoked going forward. You won't be able to add the extended warranty or jump for 12 months plus you pay out of warranty fee.
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Basically what happens is if it is tripped your rights to the extended warranty are revoked going forward. You won't be able to add the extended warranty or jump for 12 months plus you pay out of warranty fee.
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Source?
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When processing a trade in the only things the computer asks is
Water damage
Does it turn on
Is the screen broken
Is their physical damage
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What he said^^
For now, at least.
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decalex said:
What he said^^
For now, at least.
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I'm a tmo rep and so far they've said nothing about checking anything but the screen and water damage etc, I've also traded in 3 different phones that were rooted and custom Rom and all and never heard a word from Samsung or whoever the traded phones go to. Plain. And simple lol we don't care what you did with your Phone. I've also sent an s3 I. Under Warranty Last Year Without Using Triangle Away And There Were No Repercussions. Cost too much money and time to check every phone they just basically reflash and refurbish and send it back out
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I'm a tmo rep and so far they've said nothing about checking anything but the screen and water damage etc, I've also traded in 3 different phones that were rooted and custom Rom and all and never heard a word from Samsung or whoever the traded phones go to. Plain. And simple lol we don't care what you did with your Phone. I've also sent an s3 I. Under Warranty Last Year Without Using Triangle Away And There Were No Repercussions. Cost too much money and time to check every phone they just basically reflash and refurbish and send it back out
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That's the thing though. Can they re flash Knox, and if so, how do we get that tool?
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That's the thing though. Can they re flash Knox, and if so, how do we get that tool?
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Don't know yet, I can go in t-community tomorrow and see if I can contact a Samsung tech and see what they say. I asked our Samsung rep and he had no clue there was such a thing as Knox. I'll get back tomorrow with an answer.
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seshaz said:
Don't know yet, I can go in t-community tomorrow and see if I can contact a Samsung tech and see what they say. I asked our Samsung rep and he had no clue there was such a thing as Knox. I'll get back tomorrow with an answer.
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I'll hold off on rooting until you get back to us then. This is my first Touchwiz Samsung phone and I'm ready to experience ASOP on this beautiful screen
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Root discussion(Think tank)

It's still early and I have a feeling it will take a while until we have some form of root (if at all), but where should we start? I personally do not know the first place to start, but if anyone out there has any ideas, feel free to discuss them here.
I would like to make a bounty, but it seems like the trend has been a purchase is required to get root.
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lol, I was wondering when one of these threads would start up.
Do we even know if any of the normal parties will be working on root for the dt2?
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It's still early and I have a feeling it will take a while until we have some form of root (if at all), but where should we start? I personally do not know the first place to start, but if anyone out there has any ideas, feel free to discuss them here.
I would like to make a bounty, but it seems like the trend has been a purchase is required to get root.
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I expect to have mine new dt2 in the morning. Anyway the KINGROOT will root the device? they claim lollipop root....
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lol, I was wondering when one of these threads would start up.
Do we even know if any of the normal parties will be working on root for the dt2?
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I figured I would pave the way for a discussion, lol. I wish I knew anything about this stuff, otherwise I'd take a shot at it.
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King root doesn't work tried that day 1
anyone try sunshine?
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I figured I would pave the way for a discussion, lol. I wish I knew anything about this stuff, otherwise I'd take a shot at it.
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I was tinkering with the Moto BL unlock site yesterday. Actually got it to the point where I could get the "request unlock key" to show, but would fail upon clicking that to actually getting the emailed key
I hate to be Debbie Downer. But yea.... dont buy this phone is you're expecting root or an unlocked bootloader to happen any time soon.
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I hate to be Debbie Downer. But yea.... dont buy this phone is you're expecting root or an unlocked bootloader to happen any time soon.
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I know, its a shame. I absolutely LOVE moto devices, but have to seriously rethink since they seem to have stopped releasing dev devices
Nevermind. Deleted.
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I hate to be Debbie Downer. But yea.... dont buy this phone is you're expecting root or an unlocked bootloader to happen any time soon.
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most likely as true as your avatar is pink.
i will root it up if it happens but not likely anymore and only recently began to agree with what i just posted above and always knew it would come eventually but not anymore
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Motorola provided me with this...
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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That most likely doesn't work because Verizon has to lock down everything. I hope it does though. Let us know what happens
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We are not on this list or the turbo before us so that's not gonna happen
Anyone know if Wondershare will root it? I've rooted my tablets with that one click root process before, but not with my DT2 yet. I have my DT2, but not sure why I'd root when there is no development for it yet. btw my DT1 with LP wouldn't root with Wondershare.
dead batteries said:
Anyone know if Wondershare will root it? I've rooted my tablets with that one click root process before, but not with my DT2 yet. I have my DT2, but not sure why I'd root when there is no development for it yet. btw my DT1 with LP wouldn't root with Wondershare.
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The only reason I want root is for mobile hotspot.
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The only reason I want root is for mobile hotspot.
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mine does that right out of the box, I want root for autohide soft keys
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mine does that right out of the box, I want root for autohide soft keys
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The Link is useless as are the Moto chat employees.
They left me realizing the unlock and root may be WAAAY down the road.
I root for the good apps as Verizon talked me out of my unlimited data. where is titanium????
The hotspot app of theirs (V's) does work out of the box. it just eats Data.... Ive been mad for a year over my decision. I MAY refuse the box in the morning just over Moto's shenanigans on not letting me unlock a $700 phone I paid for direct. FOOLS...
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The only reason I want root is for mobile hotspot.
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+1 to that. Hotspot would be priceless.
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mine does that right out of the box, I want root for autohide soft keys
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So you either don't have unlimited data or are paying the extra $30 a month for the feature.
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But
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The Link is useless as are the Moto chat employees.
They left me realizing the unlock and root may be WAAAY down the road.
I root for the good apps as Verizon talked me out of my unlimited data. where is titanium????
The hotspot app of theirs (V's) does work out of the box. it just eats Data.... Ive been mad for a year over my decision. I MAY refuse the box in the morning just over Moto's shenanigans on not letting me unlock a $700 phone I paid for direct. FOOLS...
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Again, mobile hotspot doesn't work if you have unlimited data. Since it took about 6 months for the original Turbo to get mofo root, I have a feeling it's gonna take just as long, if ever. They still haven't found a way to write to the system within an image.
It's a shame, they got you good with getting you on a tiered line, and of course they're gonna give free mobile hotspot to tiered users for that exact reason that it eats up data. It gives you a greater chance of going over your data cap, therefore, putting more money into Verizon's greedy little pockets.
I usually average around 75GB a month, so there's no way I will EVER voluntarily give up my unlimited data. They're gonna have to pry it from my cold, dead hands before I ever give up my unlimited data.
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