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So, I was all excited to get a Note 2, but then I heard about CyanogenMod being unlikely to support new Exynos devices: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/
So with that in mind... does anyone have a competing phablet to suggest?
Nothing going on in the stickied thread for whose gonna develop for it. Any ideas?
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That seems awfully silly to drop such an anticipated world wide device. Maybe he can't meat the demand of both SG3, and Note 2?
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Nothing going on in the stickied thread for whose gonna develop for it. Any ideas?
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We are still waiting for us release date to even be announced so some devs may not even be that worried about notifying me until they get to see the device hands on.
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StelardActek said:
So, I was all excited to get a Note 2, but then I heard about CyanogenMod being unlikely to support new Exynos devices: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/
So with that in mind... does anyone have a competing phablet to suggest?
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You do know that codeworkx isn't the only developer for CyanogenMod or for Samsung devices. Him dropping support for Exynos devices isn't the end of the world. So what if he left, that's his personal choice & I understand why & completely support him but not everyone shares his views of dropping support for Exynos devices because devices like the S & Note series are very popular & its just a matter of time before some developer get his hand on the device & CyanogenMod will be developed for it. This is just needless panic.
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The HTC One X5 looks good, but no clue on when it'll come out...
And yes #illidan, I realise that another developer may step up, and I do hope that happens. But from the sounds of things, it's not just codeworkx that is dropping Samsung support:
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Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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StelardActek said:
The HTC One X5 looks good, but no clue on when it'll come out...
And yes #illidan, I realise that another developer may step up, and I do hope that happens. But from the sounds of things, it's not just codeworkx that is dropping Samsung support:
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Yes I'm well aware of the entire so called Exynos development team giving up because of Samsung's retarded ways but as of now I believe it's a 50-50 gamble for device support. Maybe a new maintainer steps up to the batting plate or an old one does (highly unlikely). It's basically up to you & seeing as the Note is the only choice for now if your looking for a phablet. I still believe that the device will receive support.
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A popular device like the Note II will surely get CM. But a point worth considering is the lack of help being provided by Samsung regarding the Exynos processor. So, in the future , development may slow down or there may be loss of particular functionality due to the lack of code or compatible blobs from Samsung for the Exynos.
Of course, there are many talented devs that gonna work on the Note II, but the Team Hacksung not supporting this is definitely a big blow, as they have shown the awesome work they can do with Samsung devices as well as the fact that they have tremendous experience on Samsung devices.
Hrm, this may not be concerning for the veteran android user,but as I plan(ned?) this to be my first android device, it makes me wonder if I should wait and see if there is support for it. I can't a stock anything, let a lone a phone. And unfortunatly this is the only android device I'm really looking forward to.
I've heard some chit chatter as well, as far as development / support not going to be strong but its not going to sway me from buying this phone.. It's still going to be awesome.. Even if its just stock rooted to get rid of system things you don't need
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I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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adampa1006 said:
I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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The nexus line is the way to go
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adampa1006 said:
I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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Apparently if has more to do with the processor. The Snapdragon, TI OMAP, NVidia etc are more forthcoming with code for CM. Sammy however is not, since exynos is a proprietary chip (aka apple).
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fear not
erick161 said:
Apparently if has more to do with the processor. The Snapdragon, TI OMAP, NVidia etc are more forthcoming with code for CM. Sammy however is not, since exynos is a proprietary chip (aka apple).
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I believe that the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy Note 2 is exactly the same as the CPU in the Galaxy S III, Just higher Clocked. And the International Galaxy S III has Cyanogenmod Already, So fear not it will be a easier port. Correct me if I'm wrong
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I believe that the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy Note 2 is exactly the same as the CPU in the Galaxy S III, Just higher Clocked. And the International Galaxy S III has Cyanogenmod Already, So fear not it will be a easier port. Correct me if I'm wrong
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I would assume so, but not sure. Personally, I won't stray away from a stock base. I want those features touted by Samsung. That's why I'm upgrading.
I'm not sure however, how well CM10 runs on the SGS3...and according to what I've read, its not a very good port.
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Any ROM for this device I find still has Samsungs Touch interface overlay on it, such as Jelly Bomb. Is there a Cyanogenmod like ROM out there for our cdma phone? When will Cyanogenmod begin to support the cdma version of the note?
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Any ROM for this device I find still has Samsungs Touch interface overlay on it, such as Jelly Bomb. Is there a Cyanogenmod like ROM out there for our cdma phone? When will Cyanogenmod begin to support the cdma version of the note?
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Wrong section bud... And there aren't any aosp roms yet... Just be patient I'm sure some will emerge with time as the device is still relatively new
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Jeez... do people ever learn?
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LOL
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Like dis?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33558212
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Like dis?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33558212
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Nothing at all like that. The exact opposite of that as a matter of fact.
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At least this could have been posted in original Android development .... come on use your head ....
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Taylorcox75 said:
Any ROM for this device I find still has Samsungs Touch interface overlay on it, such as Jelly Bomb. Is there a Cyanogenmod like ROM out there for our cdma phone? When will Cyanogenmod begin to support the cdma version of the note?
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I'd guess that any pure AOSP based ROM would need to somehow support the Samsung S-pen capabilities and be made to co-exist with the Samsung system S-pen capabilities software "blob", or do away with the S-pen capabilities altogether?
AOSP is open source ... enhancements to it may or may not be. If it helps Samsung in their patent fight with Apple to prove how they've added their own differentiated technology to smart phones, should they make it open source and let Apple have it as well?
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I'd guess that any pure AOSP based ROM would need to somehow support the Samsung S-pen capabilities and be made to co-exist with the Samsung system S-pen capabilities software "blob", or do away with the S-pen capabilities altogether?
AOSP is open source ... enhancements to it may or may not be. If it helps Samsung in their patent fight with Apple to prove how they've added their own differentiated technology to smart phones, should they make it open source and let Apple have it as well?
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Cm10 on the note 2 international supports the s-pen. Just don't get the Samsung apps have to find apps in the market that do the same thing
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There are loads of ROMs to choose from Taylorcox75.
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 ROMs.
(They all lead back to here at XDA and you will need to read the forum threads carefully. Hopefully the thread screenshots might give you an idea of what you're looking for.)
Should I come back and find this post still in the dev section tomorrow, this space will be filled with Russian Nyan Cat.
You have been warned.
Hey everyone. I am just getting into development and am looking for some experience in the field. I know it is not easy, but, if someone is not already working on this, would anyone like to join me in an attempt to port a touchwiz android 4.2.1 ROM from the international GS3 to all carrier variant GS3s? If so, respond here, or PM me. I am really interested in getting the ball rolling on this as the new touchwiz features intrigue me, but as a high school student I have no money for a galaxy s4.
Thanks for your interest.
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I don't even think its possible to port from international..
I mean in general is it, but its completely rewriting everything from scratch since US and International is completely different hardware... That's why no one has done it.
Anyone feel free to correct me but OP, if you want to really accomplish this, you have a LONG way to work. Its easier to cook your own TW ROM
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I was just wondering, because it has all of the new touchwiz functionality from the galaxy s4 (minus some of the hardware dependent stuff) so it just seemed like a cool idea. Maybe I can just get the cam, gallery, and some other stuff to work with our current touchwiz/android version.
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TekGadgt said:
I was just wondering, because it has all of the new touchwiz functionality from the galaxy s4 (minus some of the hardware dependent stuff) so it just seemed like a cool idea. Maybe I can just get the cam, gallery, and some other stuff to work with our current touchwiz/android version.
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That's if they even release TW source code... Which they probably wont since its closed sourse... The only hope is waiting for the US variant, but even with the US variant, its still closed. This is something extreme lol most elite devs won't even mess with TW since no code makes it extremely difficult... But we'll have to wait and see.
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That's if they even release TW source code... Which they probably wont since its closed sourse... The only hope is waiting for the US variant, but even with the US variant, its still closed. This is something extreme lol most elite devs won't even mess with TW since no code makes it extremely difficult... But we'll have to wait and see.
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Yeah, It is rather annoying. But is TW being closed source a new thing? Because if I remember correctly, some, if not all, of the Galaxy S3 TW versions were available open source.
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Yeah, It is rather annoying. But is TW being closed source a new thing? Because if I remember correctly, some, if not all, of the Galaxy S3 TW versions were available open source.
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The only source Samsung releases consist of kernel source code and various stock stuff. None of the stuff they release is for TW...
Touchwiz is and always has been closed source. If code was released for TW those featured would of already been implemented to AOSP based roms.
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Hey i was just wondering if the new 4.2.2 touchwiz will be ported to the s3 from the s4? Because i know im not the only one hoping for the new touchwiz to come to the s3.
I would think it's the same as porting the s3 international firmware to the us variant. Different hardware, different set up. It'll probably brick your phone.
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Oh wow really? So its not the same as like Sense on the HTCs when they were really only htcs getting newer sense roms?
Its not just the launcher its boot loaders, framework, kernels, and its all built for an 8 core exynos processer and we have a dual core Qualcomm
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It'll never happen unless Samsung releases Touchwiz source code to work with. If they would to release it I would be very possible for that to happen, even have TW on non Samsung devices..
HTC Sense is just a skin to be honest (with the exception of the new Blink feed on HTC ONE) with a couple of fancy widgets that rely on that skin.
Sense was partially ported to a couple devices back in the day due to the fact that it is almost just a skin. (Any one can feel free to correct me on this one )
Galaxy S4's Touchwiz, not only is it a skin but the gestures and fancy thing the S4 has rely heavily on TW framework.
With out that TW source to be released we're out of luck
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hednik said:
Its not just the launcher its boot loaders, framework, kernels, and its all built for an 8 core exynos processer and we have a dual core Qualcomm
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I sure hope att/sammy didn't build all that for the exynos octa. Would brick there qualcom quad cpu phones.
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Only a small portion of the S4s are gonna be running the exynos processor. Many will have the next iteration of Qualcomm's snapdragon. It will still be nearly if not entirely impossible to get the S4's firmware running on the S3. We already have 4.2.2 on the S3 though. Just gotta get on a custom ROM.
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He asked if it will be ported... so it would not brick your phone if you tried, it just simply wouldnt work. Unless you try to flash unmodified s4 software on your s3
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He asked if it will be ported... so it would not brick your phone if you tried, it just simply wouldnt work. Unless you try to flash unmodified s4 software on your s3
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im sure this can be ported w/o problems, but is a long way to go my firend.
Hopefully someone can pull it off
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jayRokk said:
It'll never happen unless Samsung releases Touchwiz source code to work with. If they would to release it I would be very possible for that to happen, even have TW on non Samsung devices..
HTC Sense is just a skin to be honest (with the exception of the new Blink feed on HTC ONE) with a couple of fancy widgets that rely on that skin.
Sense was partially ported to a couple devices back in the day due to the fact that it is almost just a skin. (Any one can feel free to correct me on this one )
Galaxy S4's Touchwiz, not only is it a skin but the gestures and fancy thing the S4 has rely heavily on TW framework.
With out that TW source to be released we're out of luck
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Might be stupid question but if we don't have source code for Touchwiz, how do we have TouchWiz custom roms..?
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dima470 said:
Might be stupid question but if we don't have source code for Touchwiz, how do we have TouchWiz custom roms..?
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Custom TW Rom are built using the original TW firmware, with features added to them.
IF we had TW source code, we'd have the features and apps like TW camera on AOSP based roms....
yes just heard it on Google I /O s4 pure android coming to att and tmobile but Google selling it amazing!!!!!
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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xxjrsmith3xx said:
yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
Definitely wanting to sale my note 2 for that.
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RMXO said:
I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
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That's what I believe it is too.
Why would anyone switch their gs4s to that? Can't aosp just be cooked up from that version? It'll deff be much more bug free then aosp at this point
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
Im just gonna wait to see if there is a rom coming out to install
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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I wonder now that there is a stock android build coming will cm for s4 be better since they will have the code specifically for this phone?
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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You shouldn't feel bad about your purchase. I'm quite happy with mine so far (except the overheating issue lately).
I don't have the AOSP version yet, so I can't really speak of the features that are/aren't going to be there.
I'm guessing if they make it true stock Android, there will be no Samsung bloat at all.
So it's basically a much more powerful version than any Nexus phone will ever be,
and as such the price is quite high. Personally, I would not consider it at that price.
I'm happy with my T-Mo, and with a few customization here or there, I can always get stock.
This is really geared toward the hard-core Android fans/developers. You can't doubt the S4 has the best internal hardware
of any phone out there, and there lies possibilities.
I also heard the news from google I/O. Does this mean that this version of the S4 will be as open as a nexus and easy for developers to make their custom ROMs for it?
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What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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Sony basically did the same thing with the ZR, took complaints and made a new phone out of it
Just purchased a 600$ Ip57 phone? Well there's IP58 now! (Waterproof not resistant)
It's good to have options, but honestly most people that buy pure vanilla Android are experienced users. Most will have no clue rather it's Vanilla or not.
So there in lies the questions. Why put this out after and most that come here that have an s4 already hacked it to death no? So I don't see the point of the users here who want to upgrade to this when you just put a vanilla type ROM on it.
Fancy pants Note ||
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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Not true. my nexus 4 gets bugs every once in a while.
If the hardware is identical to the tmoble version then you should just be able to flash the image through Odin right? Seems kind of like the galaxy nexus where you flash takju from yakju or whatever and boom, you are getting the Google play version of updates, wallet functionality etc. If anything it says Samsung has opened their flagship to aosp right?
Even if you think $650 is too much this means that potentially, Samsung will get touch wiz updates to new versions faster as there will be nexus level compatibility with each new android update. I'm not saying immediate but they will have an inside track based on the fact that Google will actively update their device through AOSP for at least 2 years.
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CM will always have bugs due to the way they change the Android coding. Where it is stable and great work people should never look for a bug free OS
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