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I received my o2 XDAiis 2 weeks ago and have been plagued with what appears to be screen alighment problems. It is almost as if the program was designed for a bigger screen.
when I touch any of the items on the right hand side of the screen the correct function is selected but as I select itmes moving towards the left of the screen they move progressively out of synch.
For example: on the phone if i touch 'talk' the phone will correctly dial however if i touch 4, i notice that 6 depresses. when the pda does this it becomes impossible to operate. To receive a call , i have to touch an imaginary area half a cm to the left of the 'receive' button.
as you can imagine i have real fun trying to get my 'start' menu. when i touch it i sometimes get the connectivity or even the volume popup display.
Hard reboot does work but not always first time. besides why should i have to reboot 3-4 time a day?
at this stage i know why there is the slide out keyboard, it is a feature so that you can use your phone, without it i would have an expensive paperweight.
Any ideas on what it might be will be gratefully accepted.
i have the same problem. and i got mine around three weeks ago.
the fix is i re-align the screen like three - four times a day. if that does not work (because sometimes the misalignment is so bad, i can't access the menu) i do soft reset.
i am starting to believe that XDA IIs is the crappiest electronic device ever built. Makes me regret that i chose it over Ericsson 910i.
Ring up the people you bought it from, tell them it's faulty and get them to send you a replacement.
I did that and then read the last post. It seems that in early feb, a batch of defective screens was used resulting in about 4k defective units sold with the problem, mine was one. Just as well I did not trash my siemens s55.piece of plastic cr*p
thanks for the comments etc. I was thinking it was something I was doing
exact same thing happening with me as well plus that the touch screen stops responding for hours at least once in a day thats why i have to allign the screen several times a day.
BLoddy gadgets all this money and still no service.
Okay so there are faulty screens that got sold, 4k of them, and I suspect I have one. But has o2 announced how they plan to deal with this?
i went back to the store and got a full cash refund. i suggest that you all do the same. helps to make a point that if companies sell defective products, they will lose money in the end. now i am using SE P910i, 300$ cheaper. bye-bye o2
Hi ALL.
I had the same problem with mine (XDAIIs from HongKong - bought 1 week ago)
It really got me SICKKK .. Then I upgraded my device with the newest upgrade from the O2 UK page, due to another BIG PROBLEM ... and finally this problem DISAPPEARED!!!
Check my post here it will maybe HELP you out, too ;-)
Have a nice week!
Joern
Touch Screen not responding
I'm having the very same problem. :evil:
Started off as a drifting problem, but now the touch screen is like dead ...no longer responding...!!
Hopefully there is the keyboard and the various buttons, but it's far from being practical!!
By the way this is my second one, the first one has been returned immediately, it didn't even pass the initialization test!!!
This one is 2 weeks old!!!
Hardware or software???
HELP!!
Here is my Log between 2 One X devices I had in my possession for a couple of weeks. After trying 13 phones from starting this thread, 11 In store and 2 that I owned - I can confirm, unofficially, the Hardware is to blame, along with terrible internal build quality, and buggy software.
Log:
1st HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Wed 11th April -
The screen is clear and white.
Flickering in Recent Apps screen, anything dulled in the background, anything Grey around hex value #808080.
Battery dies within 20-30 mins of casual use.
Battery takes 2-3 hours to charge from near 15% or less.
Signal randomly stops, and comes on and is unpredictable.
2nd HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Wed 18th April -
The screen is Yellow, like a more warm tone, like the warm setting you get on some HDTVs.
There is no flickering at all.
Colors are not as good.
Battery is lasting MUCH longer, full day casual use, isn't dying within 20-30 mins of use.
Battery is charging MUCH faster, compared to waiting 2-3 hours, from 15% or less.
Signal never randomly stops and restarts.
2nd HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Update Thu 19th April @ 8:10pm -
The Yellow screen and clear white screen is caused, apparently, because HTC use two different manufacturers to make the screens.
The Yellow screen is made by Sharp, and the clear white one is made by Acer which also has better colors than Sharp's version.
1st HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Update Fri 20th April @ 2:38am -
Updated to 1.28, made no difference.
1st HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Update Sat 21st April @ 12:52am -
Screen is constantly flickering now.
2nd HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Update Sat 21st April @ 1:43am -
Updated to 1.28, running flawlessly. But screen is still Yellow. An Update can't fix that.
2nd HTC One X - S/N: HT23 - Made in Taiwan - Update Sat 21st April @ 5:57am -
When booting, the screen changes colour and goes more Yellow! Everything washes out.
Log End - Sat 27th April
So, I gave up, and sent them both back to Amazon. After this, I tried 11 phones in store (Carphone Wearhouse) for my Brother, until we found a working faultless phone - or so I thought.
Every phone I tried had similar faults, including an internet cut off issue, and a network cut off issue. Some had dead pixels too.
And guess what, the phone my brother got, eventually inherited faults, including, what I call, Phantom Touch Screen Syndrome, where the screen is randomly registering random presses on the screen, rapidly, and causing havoc. It's like Sonic the Hedgehog is using the phone at hyper speed. The screen started to flicker on greys too, the Wifi hardware fault also kicked in and the signal kept dropping too. This all happened about the beginning of August.
I'm glad that after a few months, the hardware and software issues have finally been acknowledged. It's sad that HTC would lie outright about it all. I'm glad we have been proven right though.
You are taking a huge risk buying this phone, and I would recommend against it, and settle for the HTC One S or the Samsung Galaxy S3 if you want a compromise. HTC will play us for stupid pretending they don't know about it, because they have a reputation to keep and don't want it damaged. It's a business game, and many company's do it.
Would really appreciate if you could click Thanks since I'm new to posting here, help me get started. I've been using the forum for more than a year though.
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My One X has a few issues too, but gladly not something that's really show-stopping. Just some screen flickering, a small scratch on the outer ring of the camera lens and a not-so-awesome battery (3,5hrs screen time is my max, with hardly any syncing going on). I got it on the 4th of april.
I'm thinking of replacing it, but in due time. In a few weeks the production process will be more mature, so all small manufacturing errors that can happen now will be fixed.
Zinu said:
My One X has a few issues too, but gladly not something that's really show-stopping. Just some screen flickering, a small scratch on the outer ring of the camera lens and a not-so-awesome battery (3,5hrs screen time is my max, with hardly any syncing going on). I got it on the 4th of april.
I'm thinking of replacing it, but in due time. In a few weeks the production process will be more mature, so all small manufacturing errors that can happen now will be fixed.
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Get it replaced or a refund. You'll have to live with the issues that will only worsen no doubt over time.
Yep, my replacement I got today is also much better as my first one, in the same way like yours
Seems to be sth like a new Revision?
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Yep, my replacement I got today is also much better as my first one, in the same way like yours
Seems to be sth like a new Revision?
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Does your screen have a yellow tinge?
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Get it replaced or a refund. You'll have to live with the issues that will only worsen no doubt over time.
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Looking at how disturbing I currently find this, I don't need a replacement. I can live with it right now. As I said, maybe in about 4-6 weeks, when the device should be completely hardware-bug free in the production process. I am still reading too many stories of people getting new devices with the same or new hardware issues, sometimes even worse than they had on their first device.
I got my 1st replacement HOX yesterday and have had some time to spend playing with it and reinstalling various apps. Here's my thoughts:
On the first boot after charging, I was notified of the new OTA update, which I installed immediately. This brings it up to version 1.28.401.9, which I assume is the same one everyone is being sent OTA.
The screen fit is MUCH better! I sent mine back because the screen was poorly fitted along the top and left side and a particle of dust appeared under the glass after only a week. On the replacement, I can report no easily visible gaps around the screen and it looks to be fitted uniformly all the way around.
This is an odd one. The original HOX had a very smooth, silky feel to the screen and it never picked up a single fingerprint in the week or so I had it. The replacement screen doesn't feel quite as smooth and is definitely picking up prints. I can't give a reason for that, but it's very noticeable.
The replacement gets hotter than the original. I expect it to heat up when playing games anyway with a quad core, but this one is getting quite a lot warmer than the one I had before. Interestingly, it heats up much more when I'm using it while it's charging (via USB or mains). Why would that be?
Images look just as good as they did, with exceptionally bright and even whites all over the screen on startup and everything is crisp and clear in use. No complaints at all with this.
General performance is as snappy as I've come to expect and the apps I've played with do work just as well on this new version.
I haven't tried a few features yet, such as GPS, bluetooth or the camera and will edit this post if there's anything else worth mentioning as I use the phone more.
All in all, I'm very happy so far.
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I figured I'd start a thread for people to post build differences in their replacement devices, and to log wither the devices stay in good health after usage and time.
I just got a replacement HTC One X from Amazon today, and I can confirm, there are differences between both of them.
1st HTC One X -
The screen is clear and white.
Flickering in Recent Apps screen, anything dulled in the background, anything Grey - #808080.
Battery dies within 20-30 mins of casual use.
Battery takes 2-3 hours to charge from near 15% or less.
Signal randomly stops, and comes on and is unpredictable.
2nd HTC One X -
The screen is Yellow, like a more warm tone, like the warm setting you get on some HDTVs.
There is no flickering at all.
Colors are not as good.
Battery is lasting MUCH longer, full day casual use, isn't dying within 20-30 mins of use.
Battery is charging MUCH faster, compared to waiting 2-3 hours, from 15% or less.
Signal never randomly stops and restarts.
2nd HTC One X - Update @ 8:10pm -
The Yellow screen and clear white screen is caused, apparently, because HTC use two different manufacturers to make the screens. Yellow screen is made by Sharp, and the clear white one is made by Acer which also has better colors than Sharp's version.
1st HTC One X - Update @ 2:38am -
Updated to 1.28, made no difference.
I'll keep you posted on how my new One X is performing regularly. I'll update the Post if I find anything new.
Click Thanks if I helped a little; if this has helped you guys see differences between replacement devices. I've been here over a year, but never really posted haha.
This is different from the 'Returns and Replacements Thread' as this is a Log with a little more detail, and I currently have two phones to compare together.
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serials of your old and new? HT24 or HT23?
My first one had the clear bright screen with nice even whites too, but it had a screen fit issue, slightly lifted on bottom right and a yellow dot.
Second one seems a great fit but a softer image with a definite yellow tint to it. Interesting to read about the screen differences. Both phones are 23's made in Taiwan.
Interesting to see about the OTA as well, sadly as mine is Three branded I guess it will take longer to get to me.
Not sure what to do on my second phone, not loving this screen as much as the first.
1st one x white ht23 no flicker but some banding and very bad ripple corruption under touch pressure.
2nd one x white ht23 updated 1.28 no screen flicker sometimes abit laggy going through menu's, left hand side of the screen has ripple effect under moderate touch pressure along the side of the screen when crimped between thumb and finger.
will report back next week when I recieve third replacment.
Fyi I got a ht24 with flickering on screen and a dead pixel
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anyone else's one x have a dual notification led? e.g it shines through two of the dots vertically
Am i right in saying handsets made in china and not tiawan are better quality?
Mod Or Die
snowwhite007 said:
Am i right in saying handsets made in china and not tiawan are better quality?
Mod Or Die
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Both of mine have been Taiwan so far and both have had issues, Three are considering sending me a third after I was told on the phone that if I have problems with the 2nd phone I need to tell them within 24 hours or it will need to be sent for repair. I phoned them in 2 or 3 hours and they said it has to go for repair so arguing the point, they are getting back to me on Monday.
Edit: Forgot to add, first phone had a bright clear, pure white screen. 2nd is dull, not as sharp, slightly grainy and yellow tint to everything.
SartoriXX said:
Both of mine have been Taiwan so far and both have had issues, Three are considering sending me a third after I was told on the phone that if I have problems with the 2nd phone I need to tell them within 24 hours or it will need to be sent for repair. I phoned them in 2 or 3 hours and they said it has to go for repair so arguing the point, they are getting back to me on Monday
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Check your rights with this one. I'm not sure how it applies to mobiles, but consumer law in the UK is very clear about returning faulty products. The law for most goods is that if the item is returned due to being faulty within a "reasonable" time after purchase, then it's the consumer who has the right to choose between a refund, exchange or replacement, not the vendor. Double check that 3UK are allowed to force the issue and make you wait for a repair.
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serials of your old and new? HT24 or HT23?
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Both are HT23. I updated the thread. Both made in Taiwan.
These problems are all to common to the Taiwan built units.
4 friends and myself have sh23 built phones and not one build issue. Just a random crash here and there.
Try getting a Chinese unit.
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Gave up with this phone. Getting a refund for it. My last idea is to port the ROM of the current working one to the flickering one with the good screen and see if it does anything. But I doubt it will. Plus, I'd void my warranty. I Love and Hate this phone...
I'll wait 2 months until the phone is fully working. They clearly released it too early and never finished it.
I have 2 HOX and both are sh23. And one screen is white and the other one is yellow.
I had a similar experience in Australia with Allphones Optus branded stock. I went through 9 handsets (7 in store and owned 2) and all had issues including dead pixels, yellow spots and screen flicker.
I have just ordered a replacement from Mobicity from Singapore. hopefully I'll have more luck with this one.
Hello, dear all users of Xperia ZL...
I'm planning to buy a ZL, I've been thinking about it more than a month to purchase this phone.. I've watched several reviews, advantages, and disadvantages of it. But here in XDA, recently I realized some people faced a problem related to ZL when suddenly shut down itself because of several reasons, like the battery, etc. It looked like because ZL has built-in non removable battery, this kind of problem occurred. And for some people, changing the battery will fix the issue...
Now after knowing this kind of problem, I got myself in dilemma. I mean, this kind of problem is quite serious I think because it is related with the hardware. If it is only about LED, app, or any other software problem, it is not really matter for me, beside if it is already serious I still have XDA.. But if related to the hardware, I'm afraid my purchase will be a total waste...
So, I want to ask to you all, the users of ZL.
Does the newest Xperia ZL phone on sale might still have this kind of problem? Or Sony have already fixed it somehow recalling ZL released on 2013?
Thanks a lot for all of you in advance..
Rei Zazie said:
Hello, dear all users of Xperia ZL...
I'm planning to buy a ZL, I've been thinking about it more than a month to purchase this phone.. I've watched several reviews, advantages, and disadvantages of it. But here in XDA, recently I realized some people faced a problem related to ZL when suddenly shut down itself because of several reasons, like the battery, etc. It looked like because ZL has built-in non removable battery, this kind of problem occurred. And for some people, changing the battery will fix the issue...
Now after knowing this kind of problem, I got myself in dilemma. I mean, this kind of problem is quite serious I think because it is related with the hardware. If it is only about LED, app, or any other software problem, it is not really matter for me, beside if it is already serious I still have XDA.. But if related to the hardware, I'm afraid my purchase will be a total waste...
So, I want to ask to you all, the users of ZL.
Does the newest Xperia ZL phone on sale might still have this kind of problem? Or Sony have already fixed it somehow recalling ZL released on 2013?
Thanks a lot for all of you in advance..
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I own an Xperia ZL, bought on Oct 2013, initially, yes, i had an issue of the phone going into deep sleep and being unable to wake. That was on 4.2.2. Activating stamina mode made the sleep of death problem even worse. And back then, the battery was only able of sustaining a day's moderate usage. But since Android 4.3 was released for the ZL, all those problems have been cleared. Now, the phone performs as smooth as the Z1. it has all the camera apps as well which i think are great. Stamina mode runs very well as it should be , and no more battery drain issues. As for your query as to sudden shut down, i think its because the battery overheated. Yes, the phone can run quite warm, if you do hardcore games for long periods, like say, 45 minutes non stop , i personally have never experienced sudden shut down's before. DO also note that if the ZL gets into the occasional freeze or deep sleep, it has an advantage over the Z- a hard reset button beside the simcard slot. On the design front, there is something interesting to note of the ZL's frame. It feels different to that of the Z. the Z's frame is plastic, but the ZL's frame(for the white version) feels metallic(likely aluminium). when you try using your finger to scratch it, the Z's frame is rough, but the ZL's is smooth and hard.
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I own an Xperia ZL, bought on Oct 2013, initially, yes, i had an issue of the phone going into deep sleep and being unable to wake. That was on 4.2.2. Activating stamina mode made the sleep of death problem even worse. And back then, the battery was only able of sustaining a day's moderate usage. But since Android 4.3 was released for the ZL, all those problems have been cleared. Now, the phone performs as smooth as the Z1. it has all the camera apps as well which i think are great. Stamina mode runs very well as it should be , and no more battery drain issues. As for your query as to sudden shut down, i think its because the battery overheated. Yes, the phone can run quite warm, if you do hardcore games for long periods, like say, 45 minutes non stop , i personally have never experienced sudden shut down's before. DO also note that if the ZL gets into the occasional freeze or deep sleep, it has an advantage over the Z- a hard reset button beside the simcard slot. On the design front, there is something interesting to note of the ZL's frame. It feels different to that of the Z. the Z's frame is plastic, but the ZL's frame(for the white version) feels metallic(likely aluminium). when you try using your finger to scratch it, the Z's frame is rough, but the ZL's is smooth and hard.
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Yeah, I think I did aware that overheat battery is also causing the phone to sudden death. But what I found were quite horrifying, because after the sudden death happen, they cannot turn on their ZL unless they put it to wall charger, some of them also experienced their ZL bootloop even they didn't root it yet. Many of the ZL users fixed this kind of problem by replacing the battery. These problem occurred after the sudden death of the ZL. Are these for real? I mean, getting in touch with replacing battery means this is a ridiculously hardware problem.
I'm wondering is this still happen nowadays with ZL users?
Rei Zazie said:
Yeah, I think I did aware that overheat battery is also causing the phone to sudden death. But what I found were quite horrifying, because after the sudden death happen, they cannot turn on their ZL unless they put it to wall charger, some of them also experienced their ZL bootloop even they didn't root it yet. Many of the ZL users fixed this kind of problem by replacing the battery. These problem occurred after the sudden death of the ZL. Are these for real? I mean, getting in touch with replacing battery means this is a ridiculously hardware problem.
I'm wondering is this still happen nowadays with ZL users?
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well, in my country only C6502 is available for sale. mine was fine. and people that i have come across generally, never had any problems with their ZL's... so perhaps this might be regional/model issues? try seeking for comments from local people who own a ZL to see what its like. Sony Mobile's support in my country is absolutely horrible. i'm not sure about yours, but the service centre here is very very very poor in service and timing. So i definitely wouldn't want a Sony phone which would have issues.
Got my C6506 (new) OCT 2013.... no hardware issues..... the odd software issues here and there (Google TTS crashing, running the .569 version)....... most irritating thing about the C6506 is its 1-2 months or so lagging in updates.......
I have a C6506 too. I've had mine for just under a year. And no issues for me except the black dots on my pictures. I'm just praying I don't get the power death issue as well. I've even pulled out my old Motorola Atrix and got it flashed with a solid ROM, just so I have a backup device in case.
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Called customer care in india. Xperia ZL is out of stock and no more in production.
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Had that sudden power off issue, still my phone was without warranty so I had to change the battery. Reasons are: horrifying battery quality+hard gaming, played like 4 horus/day for 2 weeks and the problem begun. ( no clocktweaks at all! )
If you buy a phone WITH warranty, and it's truth the fact that the phone's production stopped I totally encourage you to do so, best case scenario you get the problem and get switched for a better model ( if you check sony's support forum you'll see some exchanges for "Z" or even "Z1" models ). Worst case you get the problem on 366 day and you buy a new, cheap by then, battery; not such a bad thing, the phone will keep on working for +20 bucks or so
I'm owning my C6503 since mid April 2013. Never had a sudden power off. Since June 2013 I haven't been on the stock firmware and never had any hardware issues.
Go for it!
I've had my ZL for a bit more than 4 months now. It was rooted from its first days till some weeks ago that I flashed stock 4.3 to it. Now it's working better than 4.2, but it's un-rooted. (Hoping for a rooting method for when 4.4 is available, please @DooMLoRD!!)
Never had any issues of any kind. Solid, big yet compact and beautiful looking device, now at a very good price.
But you have to consider; if you are a guy or a girl that spends most of his/her day outside (with little to no rest-to-recharge possibilities) you will need a battery bank of at least 5000mAh to go with you so you can really use yor ZL the whole day without compromises. Otherwise your ZL will die on you in +-8 hours of usage due to the high screen brightness you need when you're outside a building and you won't be able to play anything. Ha
The ZL's battery -now- can last up to 12 hours under moderate usage on the go, and up to 22 hours if you have a job that needs you to concentrate and stop touching your device for 8 hours, in such cases you only touch your device for little moments till your working day is over.
All in all this is a great device; fast and powerful enough for any task. Its camera and all is good. But I'll get a 10000 mAh battery bank as soon as I can cause I feel that way I can really make this babe shine that splendid screen, and not to have it at low brightness because of the battery. But that's me. Why 10000 mAh? Cause the 5000 or 7500 ones are almost as big and heavy as the 10000 one, and just a little bit more expensive. Reasonable, huh? And I can carry one anyway.
I hope this helped you.
- Leonardo.
Pd: Soon I'll be posting my trick for the ZL's screen, to make it look almost like the IPS screen of the G2.
And the black version is better looking for me.
First of all... Thanks for all the replies guys.. I really appreciate all your feedback and suggestions..
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I've had my ZL for a bit more than 4 months now. It was rooted from its first days till some weeks ago that I flashed stock 4.3 to it. Now it's working better than 4.2, but it's un-rooted. (Hoping for a rooting method for when 4.4 is available, please @DooMLoRD!!)
Never had any issues of any kind. Solid, big yet compact and beautiful looking device, now at a very good price.
But you have to consider; if you are a guy or a girl that spends most of his/her day outside (with little to no rest-to-recharge possibilities) you will need a battery bank of at least 5000mAh to go with you so you can really use yor ZL the whole day without compromises. Otherwise your ZL will die on you in +-8 hours of usage due to the high screen brightness you need when you're outside a building and you won't be able to play anything. Ha
The ZL's battery -now- can last up to 12 hours under moderate usage on the go, and up to 22 hours if you have a job that needs you to concentrate and stop touching your device for 8 hours, in such cases you only touch your device for little moments till your working day is over.
All in all this is a great device; fast and powerful enough for any task. Its camera and all is good. But I'll get a 10000 mAh battery bank as soon as I can cause I feel that way I can really make this babe shine that splendid screen, and not to have it at low brightness because of the battery. But that's me. Why 10000 mAh? Cause the 5000 or 7500 ones are almost as big and heavy as the 10000 one, and just a little bit more expensive. Reasonable, huh? And I can carry one anyway.
I hope this helped you.
- Leonardo.
Pd: Soon I'll be posting my trick for the ZL's screen, to make it look almost like the IPS screen of the G2.
And the black version is better looking for me.
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So apparently, the newest 4.3 firmware works flawlessly without such power death issue as far as you know right? Because actually that problem I've found seems like when ZL is still several months after released and looks like still not getting this newest firmware update... That's why I need to confirm whether there is still such problem for newest ZL out there...
Thanks for the suggestion about black color btw, I'm actually planning to buy the black one...
And for other members that haven't shared their experiences in using ZL, I really hope you'd share.. because I'm like a lost girl at a forest, I need to know if I really should buy this overwhelming device.. I would really appreciate all of your feedback, guys...
And thanks in advance once again..
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I bought my zl on 19th nov... had no sudden death issue or anything like that ..bt i had black dots in my cam ... i noticed it aftr 2mnths of usage ... went to service center ..they replaced it n gave me a brand new phone ... working fine till now ... its been almost a month now ...
i agree to everything the Sw33t_Lov3r said about the battery.
I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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Width of ZL is 69,3 and S4 is 69,8. How's yours ZL wider
viskon said:
I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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Now that you mention it, I just know about the ZL camera issue..
Thanks for the feedback..
I know that ZL actually has several disadvantages, but I dont really mind if they're about hardware that not really affect the performance, as long as it is works like it should be..
That's why I aimed for ZL, because I don't have anything across my mind beside ZL that has those performance.. Now that I found some more issues, I don't really know what should I buy with similar performance and price if not ZL..
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sarobi said:
Width of ZL is 69,3 and S4 is 69,8. How's yours ZL wider
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Dang! You're right! I held them up one on top of the other, and the S4 is wider.
Not sure if it is because of the sharp corners, but with the ZL I seem to have to stretch my thumb more.
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Rei Zazie said:
Now that you mention it, I just know about the ZL camera issue..
Thanks for the feedback..
I know that ZL actually has several disadvantages, but I dont really mind if they're about hardware that not really affect the performance, as long as it is works like it should be..
That's why I aimed for ZL, because I don't have anything across my mind beside ZL that has those performance.. Now that I found some more issues, I don't really know what should I buy with similar performance and price if not ZL..
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The LG Optimus G? Or a Nexus 4? Or Nexus 5?
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viskon said:
The LG Optimus G? Or a Nexus 4? Or Nexus 5?
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Nexus 5 has better CPU performance.. But there is no SD card slot..
Optimus G pro e985 actually good but, it is still quite more expensive.. and I dont know whether it got 4.4 kitkat update...
Rei Zazie said:
Nexus 5 has better CPU performance.. But there is no SD card slot..
Optimus G pro e985 actually good but, it is still quite more expensive.. and I dont know whether it got 4.4 kitkat update...
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Where are you making your purchase? Somewhere online?
There are some great deals here ---> http://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/bargain-deals
ATRIXXIRTA said:
Where are you making your purchase? Somewhere online?
There are some great deals here ---> http://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/bargain-deals
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well I actually planned to buy at the supplier within my country, Indonesia.. I dont have credit card... :laugh:
Rei Zazie said:
well I actually planned to buy at the supplier within my country, Indonesia.. I dont have credit card... :laugh:
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I found this site. Its based in Indonesia.
Do you have, or are you able to get a Visa Debit card?
Its a card that acts like a debit, drawing money from your own accounts, but you can use it for online purchases instead of a credit card!
Hi
For the receivers of the very fist batch that should be arriving to your door step please share your first impressions / photos / videos
I pre ordered the second batch, to be dispatched around may 16th.
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I've got the phone since Friday now (3rd day) and it's a great phone.
+ Recharge, overall quality, screen, feel in the hand, amazing speakers.
- Fast drain on batery, yellow tint on the bottom of the screen (as many others)
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Phone quality is great
Speakers are loud and crisp
Fast charge is an added bonus.
Camera shutter is instant.
No yellow tint
Buggy OS:
-Sometimes ColorOS reverts my changed settings.
-Phone mutes all notification sounds after a restart.
Dead pixel on far right, the dead pixel is so darn small it's not even noticeable unless you thoroughly search for a dead pixel.
have you guys tried Beta 2.0 of color OS ?
marianoitalianoo said:
have you guys tried Beta 2.0 of color OS ?
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Yes, i'm running 2.0 from the start.
clarckent said:
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yellow tint on the bottom of the screen (as many others)
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have you contacted oppostyle for the replacement of the phone due to this yellow tint ?
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have you contacted oppostyle for the replacement of the phone due to this yellow tint ?
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No i have not. It's not much, but it is there...
I got mine on Friday ( 2nd). So far I really like the phone. Same as others have said....
Pros:
Fast charging times
speakers sound quality are really quite good ( this was a bonus for me)
very responsive
lots of theme options
feels like a large Nexus 5 to me.
Cons:
Color OS takes some getting used to
viewing angles are a little washed out ( not as good as my M8 or note 3)
idle time on battery needs some tweaking
Overall I am glad I purchased the 7a.
The os is pretty much in an early alpha state and requires a few more updates to actually be fully usable.
Some features suck battery like it's cotton candy, but the superb sound and awesome screen make up for it.
If you wish to make it through a day on one charge then turn everything you don't need off and change the lock screen because the normal lock screen is glitched and drains your battery on standby.
Overall it's a great device with a not so great operating system.
But people like entropy are already working on the first custom ROMs so that should be handled soon.
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Received mine last Monday, started playing with it Tuesday, got a sim for it Wednesday.
I'll preface this by stating I'm coming from a 3 year old HTC Inspire 4g so if somethings seem "wrong" well it's light years difference between the Inspire and this Oppo Find 7a
My first suggestion would be to put the 2.0 beta on it, been running it since yesterday and so far I think it "feels" more stable than the 1.2.x that comes with the phone. Most importantly I haven't had a single SD issue since updating to 2.0b.
Sound/speakers are amazing. Granted I'm no audiophile but considering my other 2 devices, HTC Inspire 4g and HP Touchpad, this sounds night and day better than both.
Speed is blazing, again though I am coming from a 3 year old phone (single core).
Battery life is great for me even from the start. Even w/o comparing it to the abysmal life of my previous device I'd still consider this good.
No yellow tint for me so can't comment on that
The phone is light as heck and the size is great. I thought I'd have problems since I have such small hands but none to speak of.
Downside is no custom rom yet and as I'm used to CM the features and nomenclature are different and a bit annoying having to think about doing something where as I'm used to being able to just do it.
An annoying thing is the flip case that came with the preorder turns the screen on/off which seems like a great idea, it's just implemented wrong. When I put my phone in the cubby hole in my truck the screen turning on and off is distracting. I've read others are discovering it's turning on and off in their pockets too.
No LTE for me until I "backdoor" it since AT&T doesn't recognize this device. I registered it and got a new sim twice and my account still shows that I'm on my Inspire 4g. Granted I don't use a lot of data so not really a priority, but still would be nice to have it even if I don't use it all that much. Then again with the speed and battery life of this phone that might change.
Got mine Friday. Love the screen size and colours, the overall built quality, the sound of the speakers and the fastcharging.
I am on a rooted ColorOS 2.0 (International) Beta and I must admit I actually like it's clean look and feel. I will probably go for a custom kernel and rom in the long run though.
I do not like the white back, not much grip for me and I really hate the pleather case that came with it.
The batery drain is also a minor problem for me.
Overall it's still the best phone I owned and I recommend it (unless you have really tiny hands)
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Got mine Friday. Love the screen size and colours, the overall built quality, the sound of the speakers and the fastcharging.
I am on a rooted ColorOS 2.0 (International) Beta and I must admit I actually like it's clean look and feel. I will probably go for a custom kernel and rom in the long run though.
I do not like the white back, not much grip for me and I really hate the pleather case that came with it.
The batery drain is also a minor problem for me.
Overall it's still the best phone I owned and I recommend it (unless you have really tiny hands)
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Is ColorOS 2.0 a big difference than what it came with? I am currently on V1.20i. Ive been holding off from rooting until I start seeing some real ROM action.
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Is ColorOS 2.0 a big difference than what it came with? I am currently on V1.20i. Ive been holding off from rooting until I start seeing some real ROM action.
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Screen seems to react a little quicker to touch. 2.0 seems a crisper and smoother rom. I really love the blurr effect. Voice wakeup und Live Weather 2.0 are also pretty nice.
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Chevyguy85 said:
Received mine last Monday, started playing with it Tuesday, got a sim for it Wednesday.
I'll preface this by stating I'm coming from a 3 year old HTC Inspire 4g so if somethings seem "wrong" well it's light years difference between the Inspire and this Oppo Find 7a
My first suggestion would be to put the 2.0 beta on it, been running it since yesterday and so far I think it "feels" more stable than the 1.2.x that comes with the phone. Most importantly I haven't had a single SD issue since updating to 2.0b.
Sound/speakers are amazing. Granted I'm no audiophile but considering my other 2 devices, HTC Inspire 4g and HP Touchpad, this sounds night and day better than both.
Speed is blazing, again though I am coming from a 3 year old phone (single core).
Battery life is great for me even from the start. Even w/o comparing it to the abysmal life of my previous device I'd still consider this good.
No yellow tint for me so can't comment on that
The phone is light as heck and the size is great. I thought I'd have problems since I have such small hands but none to speak of.
Downside is no custom rom yet and as I'm used to CM the features and nomenclature are different and a bit annoying having to think about doing something where as I'm used to being able to just do it.
An annoying thing is the flip case that came with the preorder turns the screen on/off which seems like a great idea, it's just implemented wrong. When I put my phone in the cubby hole in my truck the screen turning on and off is distracting. I've read others are discovering it's turning on and off in their pockets too.
No LTE for me until I "backdoor" it since AT&T doesn't recognize this device. I registered it and got a new sim twice and my account still shows that I'm on my Inspire 4g. Granted I don't use a lot of data so not really a priority, but still would be nice to have it even if I don't use it all that much. Then again with the speed and battery life of this phone that might change.
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LTE works great if you give them an IMEI from a 4G phone like a Nexus 5. Just call ATT and have them change your IMEI, presto... your LTE will work like a champ!
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LTE works great if you give them an IMEI from a 4G phone like a Nexus 5. Just call ATT and have them change your IMEI, presto... your LTE will work like a champ!
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I had an 4g phone, but not a LTE phone. I gotta borrow a friend's phone one day and do that, eventually.
Solid build but buttons are little bit hard to press IMO.
Great screen. Very bright though. Camera is good.
Color OS features are nice but there is one bug with cellular network battery usage. I think it doesn't go into deep sleep because of it and drains battery on standby mode especially if you have screen off gesture on. If you turn this feature off, it's a lot better. I do not have yellow tint problem.
I wish we can swap back plates like One Plus. I like to use my phone without cover and the back plate is white.
The touch is very responsive. I have to change Touch & hold delay to medium to prevent accidental click while scrolling. Then again, I'm using a screen protector which comes with the phone and it might be the screen protector problem.
The speaker is loud. Really really loud. I am HTC M7 user and I think Find 7 speaker is better than M7.
best phone I ever had.
hardware: Impressive built quality, awsome gorilla glass with almost perfect touch (but I had to remove that **** of screen protector that killed touch sensitive), conversation quality is like havin ur friend talkin beside you and it get signal where other phones die.
software: I m using colorOS 1.2i, it has lacks of some feature, but it sports everything you really need and it does it fast and easy to use. It's like a stock android with kool features. Never had bug like force closing of apps....for me it's much better to use than a touchwiz and I feel like I m using a reactive nexus or a cooked rom.
camera: should I spend words? no...it's the best, there's no competion. it doesnt have any gimmick feature like htc zoe..but it's so easy and fast to find the settings u need, just shoot! and pics are nearly professional.
loudspeaker: it's in gods arena, beside z2 and htc one. if htc m8 is the king in this way, find7a is a prince, and u ll be happy of having.
Battery drain: kernel and governor need to be fixed. I had a good 6% of drain when using it with lte and screen on, but I also had 5.5% in stand by mode. so....here it's how I fixed and now I get 1.5% in standby (tnx to Gsam and Wakelock apps):
-removed stock google news and wheater widget, it doesnt allow sleep mode and it drain 1.5% of battery per hour
-removed yahoo wheater app (removing just widget is unuseful)...saved other 1.5%
-WIFI advanced settings : everythin off but optimization wifi...saved another 1.5%
- I use pattern unlock mode, from ever, someone reported that using stock colorOS mode drains battery
I noticed that when switching off WIFI , 3g/4g connection is already on...never happened with other phones, they all took some seconds for 3g to be working, maybe this means connection drain battery as it never goes really off even when is under wifi? dunno..
something I didnt like , but doesnt matter:
-power button sucks, it s less than half millimeter, so it's very hard to push it. but I dont really care, I use double tap to lock and unlock it!
-back cover. it's good and has grip, nice color and wotever...but it's very very slim and flexible. due it's so slim, antenna works like a blackberry but I m afraid it will destroy itself easily, bcs it's already starting to be flexible at my touch.
-screen: awsome , color are very good, but a more calibrated temperature can improve it. it's not blueish like some reviewr says...but a better temperature could improve its gamma as well, that s very high (I used to calibrate televisions some years ago so I have a special look on screens). at a first look , find7a screen is like an LG g2 screen with a wrong calibration (but more realistic colors ).
-It arrived with a dead pixel , but it s impossible to notice it due it's a full-hd screen, so I really dont give a shot about it.
-yellow screen, there's a yellow ghost at the base of the screen for 2 millimeters...but believe me guyz, I v seen ppl going crazy on forums for this, It's something u can notice only on a completely white screen and if nobody tells u, your not going to see it! but if u love perfection, I can say that it went away after some days of usage...I m sure it's glue and it takes some days of warm screen to be fixed.
-optional case: tnx oppo to send me such a gift in real leather, but I trash it after 1h. software doesnt support this case, having it in my pocket means it opens itself and screen goes on, but when u close it , the screen stays on anyway. I have to open it to pick up a call! wtf! why does it have such a window if I have to open it???
-warranty: oppo policy in europe is to send the phone I dont know where in europe, they will send I dont where in china, someone I dunno will decide if I have to pay to repair the phone. anyway I will pay to ship it. Ok, I accept to save 300€ on s5, m8, z2...and get 1+ if I destroy my find7...
just my opnion, everyone has his needs, wot is good for me can be bad for u...
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best phone I ever had.
here it's how I fixed and now I get 1.5% in standby (tnx to Gsam and Wakelock apps):
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So what is standby time after your fixes? People complained that the phone drains 50% of battery over night. So if the phone can't keep charge for 2-3 days it is useless for me. I do not use phone lot, so always forget to charge, so I need 2-3 days at least and I am getting 5 days with my current Nexus One.
So apparently 2.0b didn't fix the SD card issue so I'm just going to put in my old 16gb Sandisk that I've been using for a year and half and see what it does. If it works then I'll just assume the card I was sent is faulty/fake. Read speeds are between 20-35 megabytes while copying stuff off of the card onto my hard drive so that seems a bit slowish?
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So apparently 2.0b didn't fix the SD card issue so I'm just going to put in my old 16gb Sandisk that I've been using for a year and half and see what it does. If it works then I'll just assume the card I was sent is faulty/fake. Read speeds are between 20-35 megabytes while copying stuff off of the card onto my hard drive so that seems a bit slowish?
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It seems like a lot of people are having problems with the SD cards purchased from Oppo. I wonder if they got a bad batch.
Well I'm disappointed!
phone arrived Yesterday. Worked perfectly whilst I added all my personal details then I decided to install asphalt 8, just to see how it performs (I don't actually intend to play it - can't stand the pay to win crap), and the phone made a nasty crackling sound and froze on the menu screen.
Powered down with power button, and on restart the screen is messed up with multi coloured lines running across it in various places. Then freezes, and reboots to repeat the process,the lines appear in different places. Sometimes makes it into the os, sometimes show the android error broken robot icon.
I'm guessing some fault with the graphic chip.
Luckily I bought direct from amazon so they are sending a replacement, but I have lost money on next day delivery, plus however much it costs to send back the phone (I'm in the UK but bought from mainland Europe) also not pleased my personal details are still on the device. At least I didn't import it from China.
Hopefully my phone was just a rare dud, and the replacement will be fine, as I can't find any similar reports online.
Anyone else had similar problems?
Yeah I would say that's a faulty unit. Sending it back is the right thing to do. Hope you get your money back
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Well the replacement is great so far.
I noticed before the 1st one died that it was getting pretty hot on the back at the top, whilst simply going through the setup process.
The new one has been cool throughout setup, charging and about 3 straight hours of webbrowsing, so maybe the heat issue some are reporting is related to the hardware issue that killed my 1st one.
It does seem that quality control could be lacking, but as long as you buy from somewhere that offers returns, then i think its well worth buying.
I have just been using it as a mini tablet at home until i get a case and screen protector, so i dont know what the call quality etc is like, but battery on wifi has been pretty good.
Also, i charged it fully 3 days ago, and then left it on standby with wifi turned on and didnt use it. This moring it had over 80% battery, so standby time is much better than my s4 mini.