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Had a shower with the moto 360 hoping nothing would happen after seeing all these videos. Everything was fine until the next day when I took it off the dock. Water went inside of the screen and it has messed it up. Motorola have stayed that they won't repair water damage so right now I have a ****ed up watch...
I damaged mine over a month ago, wading from across a pool. Watch never went lower than 3" underwater as waded/walked 50' to get to the pool bar LOL. That short 40seconds was enough to let water in and mess it up. Mine constantly thought it was plugged in.
You best bet would be to register your device and see if you can get Moto's extra accidental coverage. This was not available when this happened to mine, so I opted for the $100 at fault replacement program. They sent me a brand new watch and I sent the defective one back.
Motorola's specification on the 360 is "water resistant IP67" if you go look up the specification IP67, it says:
6 = Dust tight , No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight),
7 = Immersion up to 1 m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion). Test duration: 30 minutes. The lowest point of enclosures with a height less than 850 mm is located 1000 mm below the surface of the water, the highest point of enclosures with a height equal to or greater than 850 mm is located 150 mm below the surface of the water
So, since you did not exceed the specification, I would contact Motorola again and ask for management, state that the watch failed their advertised specification and insist on them replacing/repairing it.
I don't get you guys sometimes. Why even take it in the shower in the first place? Just because something says it is water resistant, don't mean you have to test it out!
Agreed, it was kinda stupid to take it in the shower, but regardless Motorola states it's IP67, so they have to stand by that claim and replace your watch. Don't take no for an answer, they're full of **** if they won't honour their warranty.
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Motorola's specification on the 360 is "water resistant IP67" if you go look up the specification IP67, it says:
6 = Dust tight, No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight),
7 = Immersion up to 1 mIngress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).Test duration: 30 minutes. The lowest point of enclosures with a height less than 850 mm is located 1000 mm below the surface of the water, the highest point of enclosures with a height equal to or greater than 850 mm is located 150 mm below the surface of the water
So, since you did not exceed the specification, I would contact Motorola again and ask for management, state that the watch failed their advertised specification and insist on them replacing/repairing it.
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That's not true. A shower, swimming in shallow water, wading in a pool - These all exceed the ip67 spec because of the pressure requirement . These watches can handle being submerged in 1 meter of water. They can handle one meter of water pressure. Showers, wading, swimming all exceed the equivalent of one meter of water pressure EVEN IF they were never actually over a meter underwater.
Reminds me of all the people who put their iphones in the sink thanks to iOS water protection update. Why on earth would you test something like this just for the sake of testing it? Gorilla glass supposedly can withstand being hit with a hammer or axe or nailgun or whatever. Does that mean you are going to bash your phone on purpose just to find out? Really hard to feel sorry for people.......
Same thing happened to me: went to an hotel pool (i.e. a very shallow one), started swimming (I'd say 30 to 40 meters) before I thought about removing the watch.
When I pressed the button, the screen stayed black, so I knew I was in trouble.
To make a long story short: the watch would occasionally accept to start, when plugged to the charger for a while, but wouldn't go past about 15% before starting to discharge again (still on the charger).
I knew I was busted (purchased the Moto 360 while traveling in the US, but back in France there's no Best Buy close at hand to have it replaced, even at a cost), so I decided to play my last card:
Following the instructions from iFixit, I removed the back cover. It sure was a bit tricky, but I was able to do it nonetheless. The sad thing is that the back cover is now cracked, but then the Moto 360 had already proven that it doesn't like water anyway, and I've been using a carbon-like skin on the back right from the start, so I don't think I lost much protection to water. The trick to remove the back is to heat the watch, which I did by wrapping it in a water bag (actually a microwave-heated cherry stone bag).
After removing the cover, I put the Moto 360 in a sealed box with some silica gel, and applied vacuum to the box for good measure (don't know how effective this last part was, though), and let it dry for a couple of days.
When I removed the Moto 360 from the box, and put it on the charger, I was able to get it to charge fully again. So I re-heated the Moto 360 and coverplate, re-sealed it the best I could, and I've been using it happily since.
Note that my first attempt to put the Moto 360 in a box with silica gel without removing the back cover wasn't successful, which means that the watch is sealed just enough to prevent water getting in or out when you leave the watch alone, but obviously when you swim in a pool (or take a shower), you add some pressure that lets water get in.
That was a close call for me, I hope that by sharing my experience I can help people to recover a usable watch, if like me you've got no way to ask for a replacement.
My advice: stay on the safe side, don't push the limit when it comes to the Moto 360 and water!
It's strange to see how commonly people mistakes the term 'water resistant' with 'water proof'...
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To those who have had their watches messed up from getting them wet, were you using the included strap or a different one that was putting pressure on the plastic back plate away from the watch?
yeah, umm... i never even thought about getting my 360 near water ip67 claims or not. smh.....
You guys are weird. If something is advertised as having x or being able to do x, why wouldn't you want to test that out? In normal practices, not extreme. Why wait until that fateful day when it fails to live up to its advertisement when you can find out early on? I used to shower with my casio all the time so it's not like it's not normal to do.
I'd be angry af if my ip67 device couldn't survive a shower when there have been many videos dunking galaxy s5 phones into water. Motorola needs to get their act together.
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To those who have had their watches messed up from getting them wet, were you using the included strap or a different one that was putting pressure on the plastic back plate away from the watch?
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As for me, the leather band had been replaced by a silicon one... It certainly could have an influence, indeed.
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You guys are weird. If something is advertised as having x or being able to do x, why wouldn't you want to test that out? In normal practices, not extreme. Why wait until that fateful day when it fails to live up to its advertisement when you can find out early on? I used to shower with my casio all the time so it's not like it's not normal to do.
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Well, I partly agree with that. Why would anyone intentionally test the limits of a potentially expensive device, then have to spend some time arguing with the vendor that it doesn't meet the advertised specs? The trick is, IP 67 certification isn't particularly explicit about what you can or can't do with it, so it probably wouldn't hurt to err on the cautious side.
I was used not having to care about water with my Pebble, though (5ATM waterproof), so I lost the reflex to remove my watch before getting near a pool. I'd certainly have thought to remove it if I planned some serious swimming, but then I only intended to get wet to stay cool while enjoying the sun, and I forgot about the watch.
And as far as shower is concerned, I personally try to clean the area between the arm and the band, so I'd never get into the shower with my watch. Especially one that you have to recharge nightly, and which as such doesn't even stay all the time around your wrist. So I guess it all depends what your personnal tastes are...
From my understanding, it's not warrantied against damage in the shower, because imagine how much more pressure those shower jets put out compared to just sitting in a few feet of water
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You guys are weird. If something is advertised as having x or being able to do x, why wouldn't you want to test that out? In normal practices, not extreme. Why wait until that fateful day when it fails to live up to its advertisement when you can find out early on? I used to shower with my casio all the time so it's not like it's not normal to do.
I'd be angry af if my ip67 device couldn't survive a shower when there have been many videos dunking galaxy s5 phones into water. Motorola needs to get their act together.
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My car came advertised with airbags. Drove it off the forecourt, got it up to 70mph then slammed it in to a tree.
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My car came advertised with airbags. Drove it off the forecourt, got it up to 70mph then slammed it in to a tree.
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Since I knew someone was going to try and use that, I added the "in normal practices, not extreme" part.
imo, some common sense is necessary. if you look at the watch it has holes in it on the side and the back of the watch. the watch clearly states that it is water resistant. i personally was not interested in testing the validity of those claims based on the fact that is said 'resistant'. if it said waterproof i would understand.
but as some one else stated who takes a shower with a watch on? why?
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I'd be angry af if my ip67 device couldn't survive a shower when there have been many videos dunking galaxy s5 phones into water. Motorola needs to get their act together.
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Why would you be angry? IP67 covers being submerged in water. It can handle up to a meter of water pressure. It can't handle the pressure from a shower head or swimming with it on. The average water pressure in a home is 60psi. THAT IS ALMOST 4 TIMES WHAT IP67 IS RATED FOR. Taking a shower with the S5 would be a bad idea as well.
It's like complaining your 360's 300mah battery can't charge up to 900mah. It doesn't make sense.
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Why would you be angry? IP67 covers being submerged in water. It can handle up to a meter of water pressure. It can't handle the pressure from a shower head or swimming with it on. The average water pressure in a home is 60psi. THAT IS ALMOST 4 TIMES WHAT IP67 IS RATED FOR. Taking a shower with the S5 would be a bad idea as well.
It's like complaining your 360's 300mah battery can't charge up to 900mah. It doesn't make sense.
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It's nothing like that. My Moto 360 survived being put under running faucet water to show my friends. It not being able to survive a shower says to me bad unit.
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It's nothing like that. My Moto 360 survived being put under running faucet water to show my friends. It not being able to survive a shower says to me bad unit.
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It's exactly like that. Just because your moto 360 once survived 4 times the water pressure it's rated to be able to handle doesn't mean any that fail to do so are defective.
So got my phone 2 days ago and finally decided to take my phone for a swim in my salt water pool. Everything was fine until I dipped my phone underwater for 2 seconds. Phone then started to malfunction like crazy! Power button stopped working, camera would randomly open every few seconds, google on tap would Activate every few seconds. I turned my phone on and off and let it dry for one hour and the phone was still acting crazy. Even while the phone was on the lock screen or on the always on display screen it would go crazy and turn the camera on! I was getting ready to return my phone the next day as defective. I then took the phone and dipped it in regular sink water for a few seconds and now it works fine! Does anyone know if this phone is only resistent to fresh water and not salt water?? Lesson learned, never put this phone near water again. Hope I dont experience permanent damage after only having the phone for a few days!
I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
I actually had gone to the lake yesterday and tested this out, of course after watching a youtube of someone else using the phone under water, and can't say that I've experienced any issues. Then again the lake is freshwater, but I'm interested in knowing more about the affects of saltwater on this phone... Probably because the charger port is still exposed?
The ports are sealed which means there shouldn't be water getting into the phone itself to mess with the internals. I don't think salt makes a difference except it might confuse the screen input.
The phone shouldn't be acting in this way if the seals are doing their job. If indeed there is water ingress, go to Samsung for an exchange.
Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
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I literally dipped in for no more than 5 seconds! I didnt even use it underwater. If the phone cannot withstand 5 seconds being submerged in water than it should not be IP68!
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
Actually it is the salt waters fault...
Salt water is more conductive than freshwater due to the sodium and chlorine ions within it. This has probably meant the screen has freaked out as it works on conductivity etc.
Even after drying out there was probably a residual coating of salt on the screen and when you washed it in freshwater it was removed and it started being OK again.
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Really interested about people testing the Note 7's water resistance.
This was one of the big selling points for the Note 7 for me, but from what I've seen with Galaxy S7 tests and Note 7 tests, it still seems like a risk using your phone in water. I think I'll wait until at least next year before testing out the water resistance. I'd like to get some use out of my new $950 phone before I intentionally submerge and it blows up or something.
Do NOT put the phone in saltwater. That IP68 certification is for freshwater. The saltwater was definitely the problem. I've heard Samsung will not cover the replacement if they find out it has been in saltwater.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
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Unless your friend has a salt water pool, or was in yours, I wouldn't be concerned about it. I would assume the ocean would have the same type of effect on the phone unfortunately. In regular water circumstances it should be fine, as I've experienced so far. I'm just curious about how the hotter end of the spectrum effects the phone.
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Well seems we have our answers about salt water
salt water conducts electricity better than sweet water.
in fact, you should be fine dipping an open non-WR device in perfectly clean water as it doesn't conduct electricity at all(not easy to find)
water resistance with this phone refers to it's capability of keeping the water away from the internals, which it does well enough(i read somewhere the rating means at least 30 minutes at 1 meter depth)
your phone wasn't affected by water on the inside, but traces of highly conductive salt water on the screen's surface which mimicked tapping from your fingers.
you should definitely avoid "extreme" temperatures (freezing or hot water) as these will cause both the casing and the sealing material to change shape a bit which can create gaps.
and also avoid soap, as it weakens the water's surface tension allowing it to leak through smaller gaps.
I think Samsung should at the very least tell people not to use the phone in Salt Water in it's Ads!!! Alot of the answers in this thread make sense and it seems that it's not a good idea to use these Samsungs in salt water....
I went to the beach yesterday...i didnt even go in the water with the phone (too cold) when i was driving home I had a warning about my charge port having water.
Interesting.
Good info about no salt water... glad I didnt trat it the waves.....phew!
It's in the manual: no salt water, no washing with soap etc...
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See this guy putting his note 7 into coca cola flor 11hours
Phone do it great
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Your best bet is to treat this water resistance as a precaution. Yes, Samsung even uses shows the s7 series (includes the note) as being able to handle taking pictures underwater. I am sure this is the case, but the warranty for this phone VERY SPECIFICALLY says that if the water resistance fails, they are not responsible. There is even liquid damage indicators in the sim slot. So, again, this will be at your own risk.
Also, salt is more conductive, etc, as everyone has already said. What is more important, and an effect that can't be washed off with freshwater, is the corrosive nature of salt on electronics, and rubber. The salt, overtime, will eat away at a water sealing gasket. If any salt gets into the sealed portion of the phone....game over.
I owned a S7 for 2 weeks, before returning it and getting an s7 edge (I now have the note 7). I was talking on the phone when I got drenched by a drunk buddy with a hose. Guess what? The LDI did not trip, and there was no signs of water damage. The phone worked fine...but the mic never worked again, for the remaining week I owned the phone. I even told the store I returned it to, and they were nice enough to take the phone back anyway. But if the mic malfunction was the result of the water exposure, and I assume it is, Samsung would not have been obligated to fix it for free.
I take advantage of the water resistance, but I don't flirt with it either.
Now I'm nervous that I somehow did some permanent damage to my phone. Seems to be working fine right now with no issues whatsoever. Speaker seems to be working fine. Anyone know other possible permanent damage to the phone I should be on the lookout for to determine if I should return it during the warranty period?
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Got my F3 almost a week ago, but comming from a Sony XZ1c I'm used to a waterresistant phone. I know this isn't in the specs, but some things just keep me wondering....
see 2m30s: Jerry takes out the simtray of the F1 and there's no rubber sealing. The F3 clearly has one:
see 0m12s or look at your own if you're as lucky as I am Also the outside of the USB port seems to have some rubber around it (see 1m16s) but I can't see the inside.
Also GSMarena was curious (https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p2.php)
"We can say two things for sure - the Poco F3 has fewer ports than the X3 Pro - hence fewer potential water entries - and it seems the F3 has similar SIM and USB port insulations as the ones on the Poco X3 Pro. Long story short - we do believe the F3 is protected against splashes, but for some reason, the maker isn't advertising it as such."
In the Poco teardown video I can't get a clear look at the speaker ports and even using a magnifier I'm unable to see if there any kind os sealing on the inner end of the holes in de phone.
What is your opinion? Who's maybe more adventurous or experienced to see if the holes have been waterproofed?
Have a great weekend!
Patric
PatricB said:
Hi,
Got my F3 almost a week ago, but comming from a Sony XZ1c I'm used to a waterresistant phone. I know this isn't in the specs, but some things just keep me wondering....
see 2m30s: Jerry takes out the simtray of the F1 and there's no rubber sealing. The F3 clearly has one:
see 0m12s or look at your own if you're as lucky as I am Also the outside of the USB port seems to have some rubber around it (see 1m16s) but I can't see the inside.
Also GSMarena was curious (https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p2.php)
"We can say two things for sure - the Poco F3 has fewer ports than the X3 Pro - hence fewer potential water entries - and it seems the F3 has similar SIM and USB port insulations as the ones on the Poco X3 Pro. Long story short - we do believe the F3 is protected against splashes, but for some reason, the maker isn't advertising it as such."
In the Poco teardown video I can't get a clear look at the speaker ports and even using a magnifier I'm unable to see if there any kind os sealing on the inner end of the holes in de phone.
What is your opinion? Who's maybe more adventurous or experienced to see if the holes have been waterproofed?
Have a great weekend!
Patric
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Personally I think it's water resistant but they've decided to not get it officially tested to lower costs so they could instead spend on an amoled and snap 870 5g. So my opinion is it is water resistant however we'll never know for sure
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Personally I think it's water resistant but they've decided to not get it officially tested to lower costs so they could instead spend on an amoled and snap 870 5g. So my opinion is it is water resistant however we'll never know for sure
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I agree, I have the same feeling as well.
Looking at the rubber sealing they for sure thought about water ingress protection, but did not go for official certification to safe cost.
GeForce66 said:
I agree, I have the same feeling as well.
Looking at the rubber sealing they for sure thought about water ingress protection, but did not go for official certification to safe cost.
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Reminds me of the OnePlus One if i remember correctly they did the same.
It seems it will be like POCO F1 - unofficialy annouced to be splash resistant after some time of release. Personally I have no knowlage about it. I used poco f1 in the light rain or spilled some drops on it and I had never face an issue.
Thank you all!
I'never actually made made my old phone really wet, but knowing it can handle it gives a peace of mind
Too bad I don't know how they made the lower speaker holes....
I'd say most phones these days are splash resistant with a tempered glass screen protector and TPU case.
I bought my Mi Pad 4 in 2018 when there was little to no IP rating phones on the market and I've used it under snowy and rainy conditions during bus stops, it's still working perfectly with 94% battery charge.
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It seems it will be like POCO F1 - unofficialy annouced to be splash resistant after some time of release. Personally I have no knowlage about it. I used poco f1 in the light rain or spilled some drops on it and I had never face an issue.
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Funny it can handle a splash after all after Jerry finds that "they made no effort to make it water resistant at all" or something like that. And a reassuring thought also
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I'd say most phones these days are splash resistant with a tempered glass screen protector and TPU case.
I bought my Mi Pad 4 in 2018 when there was little to no IP rating phones on the market and I've used it under snowy and rainy conditions during bus stops, it's still working perfectly with 94% battery charge.
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True, chances of it ever getting wet without any case at all are very very small. Using it without a case it'll probably slip right out of my hand in a day or 2
Sorry for obsessing guys
Finally managed to make a pic of the bottom speaker holes. They're not completely open after all but there seems to be a small grid of somekind.
Seems the holes in the grid are too small for water.
Now I'll try to leave the topic alone until it actually drops in the water
Ok, probably it really is since the K40 pro has what seems to be the exact same design and is IP53. I really don't beleive that internally there's something different with the ports so guess you're right:"they saved costs for and official rating and can use it now as a ksp for the pro
Well, I can say that I've already accidentally tested this myself. The other night I accidentally knocked over half a glass of water right on top of the screen, and left it for a minute or two before I noticed. I just wiped it off and haven't had a single problem.
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Well, I can say that I've already accidentally tested this myself. The other night I accidentally knocked over half a glass of water right on top of the screen, and left it for a minute or two before I noticed. I just wiped it off and haven't had a single problem.
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ok that is good to know. So aparently the very tiny speaker grill on the top left front of the display (barely visible to the naked eye) has been protected too.
Thanks for testing
Xiaomi doesn't was to pay for certification to keep the prices low for consumers, but I'm pretty sure the phone has splash/dust proof equivalent to IP53 rating.
Someone was kind enough to try
PLZ deleted.. stupid XDA App...
All those dunk tests... don't try it.
Failure is always the last result
Thanks, i won't, unlocking a new phone is tense enough
fyi, I forgot to remove my phone from my pocket when I went in the swimming pool. For around 10min under maybe 50cm of water.
I press on/off button and worked great. But for 2min.
I made noob mistakes (trying to unlock it, pressing buttons, and blowing through holes) and after 2min, it died. Reboot and screen slowly turned off. I think the buttons are the worst part of the phone, I could literally drink the water that went into the phone from them. Crazy.
Anyway, my adventure with the F3 ends here Gonna make a last attempt in few days again (after drying it for 3 days into rice). Going back on my S10e.. which is waterproof ^^
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fyi, I forgot to remove my phone from my pocket when I went in the swimming pool. For around 10min under maybe 50cm of water.
I press on/off button and worked great. But for 2min.
I made noob mistakes (trying to unlock it, pressing buttons, and blowing through holes) and after 2min, it died. Reboot and screen slowly turned off. I think the buttons are the worst part of the phone, I could literally drink the water that went into the phone from them. Crazy.
Anyway, my adventure with the F3 ends here Gonna make a last attempt in few days again (after drying it for 3 days into rice). Going back on my S10e.. which is waterproof ^^
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Rice doesn't work! NO!
Pull the rear cover and disconnect the battery asap!!!
Place in a warm dry room with a fan on it. Allow to completely dry, more is better than less. At least 2 days.
For better water removal:
If it doesn't have a LCD display, you can flush with anhydrous (96-99% only!) isopropyl alcohol to absorb the water. Be careful if it can get in between the glass and display, avoid this as it may leave a water mark. Get as much as the isopropyl off then by using centrifugal force and gravity*. Proceed to the drying procedure above.
Isopropyl is flammable so don't get stupid with it.
Never use it or any solvent around a LCD display; it will poison the display.
Use your best judgement. If you are successful the device will function normally.
If not it's likely because you delayed in removing the battery.
If it was salt water... it's already dead.
*Dry, oil free low pressure (5-15 psi) compressed air can be used to more efficiently displace/dry the isopropyl alcohol. Get under the BGA chipsets on the mobo with it. Connectors and switches. Don't go too nuts but blowout as much as possible without driving it in between the display/glass.
Damn, I did not expect that. It seems that Google has come a long way.
Jerry says that the Pixel 6 Pro is the second most repairable smartphone of the year 2022, the only phone being more repairable is the Fairphone, which is literally designed to be repairable.
The biggest argument in favor of the Pixel 6 Pro is the fact that the front panel can be disassembled in less than 2-3 minutes, Jerry even claims 60 seconds should be enough when the repair is done by a professional. That's awesome to hear in case the screen breaks. An easy repair is a big pro.
"Smartphone Durability Awards 2021!"
Skip to 02:19 for the Pixel 6 Pro part.
What also should be noted is the fact that Google opted for a plastic clip system underneath the display (additional to the ever present glue)- meaning you could even swap out the panel and put everything back together, simply by clipping the panel into the phone chassie, WITHOUT glue. Now, that is not recommended, but it's good to know that there is more holding the phone together than a couple drops of glue.
I work in a shop environment with lots of titanium, magnesium, steel, and aluminum dust. Would this be an issue with the fold 3's inner screen or is it stong enough to withstand the metal dust being in my pocket Tweakbox Appvalley https://vlc.onl.
You said the keyword "dust." I don't think the screen would be the prime victim-- but if you are concerned about the abrasive properties of fine particles, I'd probably want to have a source of compressed air to sweep the surface. I get to the more concerning elements below-- but I suspect that those can be addressed.
I don't think the display itself is more fragile than any other modern phone's coated surface. But I might be concerned about abrasive particles resting on the inner display surface while open and then being "stored" there when the clamshell is closed. You'd be a better judge of whether static electricity would make these particles more stubborn to blow away. And also you'd have to judge how profuse those particles are in the working environment.
I'd also have the same concern-- but to a lesser extent-- about the hinge area. The Z Fold 3 has a pretty good hinge cover. But I can't guess whether particles measured in microns might be a stubborn problem. You use the word dust rather than shavings so this might be a concern. Some cases have hinge covers. Mine does not*. I was not impressed by the design and protection offered by the ones I saw when I researched them. (Extensively before I actually had experience with my own Z Fold 3.)
Now on to that keyword "dust." I have had my Z Fold 3 for four weeks now. I flew from the US to Asia and I noticed an increasing tendency for incoming calls to be muffled and ultimately barely audible. I brought the device to the local Samsung Customer Service Center. (That's something that hardly exists in the US except in Glendale, CA and maybe in the NY Metro area.) The associate took my Z Fold 3 and went into the back room-- presumably where the techs are sweating away. She came back and had my hubby call me. Sure enough the sound was back to it's pristine state. She told me the problem was due to dust in the narrow slot just above the top of the phone's inner display. (And I have not been in an environment like your workplace-- but I live in a US desert city.)
I asked her whether canned air would work in the future. She seemed skeptical but I cannot be sure whether it was a language comprehension issue, a lack of experience with the Fold series-- or both. But I can tell you: whatever they did in the back room must have been simple because she was only back there for 2 minutes or so. Half of that must have been describing the customer complaint.
Can you think of a simple air flow chamber you could create or repurpose to periodically "freshen up" the phone?
* I got the very pricey Supcase Unicorn Beetle case. I never heard of this supplier before. But after reading customer reviews on that "smiley" site and looking at YouTube reviews/demos, I concluded that it provided good solid protection on everything other than the hinge. And as a bonus it has a well situated compartment for the Z Fold Edition S Pen. It's easy to access. So clever that I ordered the S Pen even though I am not a very stylus-oriented person. The stylus stays snugly in the compartment so I won't lose it even when the compartment is open.
I hope I gave you enough to reflect on. Feel free to probe more.
Oh-- here's another thing you didn't ask about: am I sorry I spent that much? OK-- I got a great deal from Samsung with tradein so it made the price more palatable. But nevertheless-- I traveled to Asia over 22 hours with my brand new toy. Left my laptop, mini tablet and old phone home. I discovered that the Z Fold 3 will work nicely with the Logitech K400 series keyboards-- and their embedded touchpads. Wow!
Signing off for now...