Hello,
I bought two identical sony xperia 10 III phones. I use it for a week. Checking the battery level through the AccuBattery app shows that my battery design capacity is 4380 mAHh and the estimated balance is 4231 mAh. Although it is declared that the capacity is 4500 mAh. Is that normal, because like the Sony Xperia 10, the first generation showed everything well.
Normal. Accubattery is a useful app but it has it's idiosyncrasies. This is one of them.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2500mAh-Ext...Accessories&hash=item4ab6494de0#ht_2449wt_802
What do you guys think. Is it even possible to get a 2500mah battery that small?
it looks interesting, but seems to be a fake 2500... need some review
gatt088 said:
it looks interesting, but seems to be a fake 2500... need some review
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Indeed, it's very suspect. Item description reads:
Rechargeable Battery
* Quantity: 1
* Stay connected with your family and friends by getting extra battery power today!
* This replacement battery has an integrated microchip that prevents overcharging and lengthens battery life.
* Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time.
* Great bargain with excellent quality guaranteed!
* Type: Generic / Aftermarket
* Cell type: Lithium Ion
* Voltage: 3.7V
Capacity :2500mAh
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So if the capacity is 2500mAh compared to 1650mAh for the stock battery, why are the standby and talk times comparable, instead of vastly superior.
it seems the battery doesn't fit inside s2 !see the comments in feedback section of the seller
So the conclusion is: don't buy this battery!
this is because some people having t'mobile version gs2 bought this battery that is for international gs2 only.
Ok guys here's the real manufacturer page of the Momax X-level battery. Same specs as stock. Not better
Link http://www.momax.net/en/Product_Show.aspx?ID=1519&T=2
yes, i couldn't find the 2500 version on their website
don't buy!
metabeta said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2500mAh-Ext...Accessories&hash=item4ab6494de0#ht_2449wt_802
What do you guys think. Is it even possible to get a 2500mah battery that small?
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Any Li-ion battery the same size as the original is going to be more or less the same capacity, however there are many sellers who simply upgrade the label and charge more. This has turned into a bit of an arms-race where every seller feels he has to try and out-do the competition's outrageous claims. I've seen the same batteries advertised as 1650mA, 1850mA, 2000mA, 2200mA and now this guy's just trumped that.
When you complain that it doesn't last any longer than the standard battery you'll no doubt be told you have to go through umpteen discharge/charge cycles before it is at full capacity. This is also BS of course.
These are probably perfectly good 1650mA batteries, just don't get conned into paying more for a bigger number on the label.
This batt is fake, I had to buy one to believe it. I used battery monitor app to get the infor about its capacity and it says its 1650!!! Not 2500
don't buy!
I bought two pieces but same the original battery
not need for me...
One good solution for people looking for a greater capacity battery for the SG2 is the Anker at 1900mAh. I have it one year so far, and after hundreds of charging cycles it is still as good as it was the first time. Sorry for the off-topic, however not very often I have bought such a reliable non-brand product. Between 1650 and 1900 the small difference is, that the phone will make it through the day with a moderate use, because for heavy use not even the 2500 is enough....:good:
The opinions below are based on my experience, training and the tests I carried out on the purchased batteries. I am not affiliated to or employed by any battery or phone manufacturer.
I will be happy to retest and add to this report should any supplier or manufacturer believe that I have tested faulty items and are prepared to supply me with another/others to test. The additional information will be added honestly however it tests.
Tests based on a rooted and optimised version of the official 2.3 build of the HTC desire with a standard htc desire 1A charger.
Utilities used included:
Battery monitor widget pro
Antutu battery test
The reference battery is a two year old original HTC battery which is well used but still in very good condition. Capacity reasonably tested and calculated at around 1180 - 1250mAh of the original rated 1400mAh. Given normal projected losses for li-ion batteries this seemed high for a 18-24 month old battery but as other ratings are relative to this, the other estimates should be equally on the high side if anything.
A took great care to fully charge/cycle the new batteries as described by the sellers, and did a full calibrating charge cycle on the original before rating it. Battery stats were cleared for testing as each battery was tested.
Various tests were carried out including using battery monitor widget pro to analyse any different usage/performance and estimate power of each battery in addition to using original as benchmark.
SUMMARY RESULTS (mAh accuracy expected to be +/- 15%)
Antutu test scores. Note these do not define a power rating, only relative benchmarks on the same phone in the same situation. The capacities stated result from the tests with battery monitor widget pro and compared to the confident rating of the original.
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2 year old original HTC battery claimed 1400mAh - tested 495 (approx 1200mAh)
New Cameron Sino (in loose packaging) claimed 2400mAh - tested 773 (approx 1900mAh)
New Bilitong gold in original packaging claimed 1650mAh - tested 356 (approx 850mAh)
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The Good
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The Cameron Sino tested is the first chinese battery I have tested which actually gives more (around 50% more) capacity than the good condition 2 year old original. This equates to somewhere between 1800-2000mAh for this battery. This does result in testing to a 50% longer phone life in the same use.
Its available very cheap
The large case back needed by these large batteries and as supplied by the Amazon seller is a good fit, seems good quality. Although effectively doubles the thickness of the phone is easy to hold unlike the reports of some no brand large batteries and larger covers with 'quick break' clips. It actually seems easier to hold to me than in the phones 'skinny' form. It of course feels significantly heavier.
The Bad - some seem very serious
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There is some impact on the quality of pictures taken by the deep recessed slots the pictures and flash have to pass through.
The large battery does seem to move some with a bit of a clunck felt which should be easily addressable with a small cushion pad added to the inside of the case.
The Cameron Sino battery I tested (like the bilitongs) does not seem to have proper (or at least working) control and protection electronics, in that neither the voltage or the battery temperature is correctly reported to the phone. Both report a fixed voltage of 3923mV and a relatively fixed 24.x temperature even when the phone is noticeably hot to the touch.
Both the Cameron Sino and the Bilitongs seem unwilling to report a 100% charge. Both stick at 99% although I have seen 100% on the Cameron Sino once, which may have been a very minor phone calibration error rather than the battery actually reporting 100%.
Both the Cameron Sino and Bilitong batteries demonstrated erratic battery % left (which is all they really reported) sometimes going back up significantly after being in light use and often dropping very sharply in reasonable use (wifi and browsing with bright screen).
The original did not do this to any noticeable level, always showing consistent and accurate % remaining, and as the original also reported accurately full range battery voltage and temperature, so is in a vastly higher league in its status reporting and presumably safety.
It seems to me that in both the Cameron Sino and Billitong batteries, the proper control and protection circuitry is replaced by a something akin to a simple resistor/diode type setup which is just enough to fool the phone into actually using these batteries rather than reject them as faulty as would occur if there was nothing on these circuits.
Its worthy of note that the standbye/self-discharge rate on the none-original batteries (all) is actually higher than the original with full protection circuitry - adding to the view that there are something like low quality resistors replacing the control circuitry.
This means that I cant see how any any over or under voltage or over temperature protection is done with the 'compatible' batteries potentially increasing the risk of damage to the phone.
The Ugly?
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Ok with the Cameron Sino its twice as thick and a fair bit heavier. But I don't see this as a great issue. It sits nicer in the hand in my view and I'm Less likely to loose it by dropping it un-noticed.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
So my personal views in summary.
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Based on the one I received, the Cameron Sino will give 50% better capacity than a good condition 2 year old original.
Presumably the gains would be significantly less over a new original HTC battery, and more over a worn out original.
Beware of the apparent lack of protection and control, the increased weight/size and possible camera problems.
If you are using the standard phone software, you could get much better increases by installing one of the optimised versions of the HTC builds available freely from the developer forums. I gained over 50% on the usable life per charge just from installing one of these, and ensuring things like gps and wifi were switched off unless I needed them. (at the touch of an icon).
Even if you don't do this, the latest official HTC 'radio reportedly improves power use significantly over older versions.
*** Do any of these at your own risk and after properly investigating the options.
Finally, I would strongly suggest you completely avoid the Bilitong batteries just as much as the unbranded chinese batteries, which in my experience are unlikely to give much better than 850mAh (whatever they claim) when new and very quickly fade, let alone the apparent lack of proper control and protection electronics (seemingly shared by the Cameron Sino).
Gonna amend the overall view with the following:
As the Cameron battery had 2-3 times the standby/low use drain of the original battery resulting in far more battery drain overnight and when the phone is simply being carried around, the extended capacity would be of far less use to those looking for extra days of light use between charges, and would only be really effective for extending heavy use in a single day.
I have already gone back to using the old original battery.
Possibly use one of the crappy Bilitongs when using GPS in the car in a windscreen cradle as the phone can get quite hot there and I want to minimise hot use of the good battery.
Hey guys,
i've had the note 2 since nov. 2012 and am still on the original samsung battery that came with the phone. Lithium Ion batteries degrade over their lifetime and i wonder how much mine has ''hamoraged'' and whether a new battery would significantly increase my battery life/on time. I've had one battery app installed from the playstore that (i forgot which one) showed a bit above mha 3100 when fully charged. Can this really be true? This would mean no degradation at all, right?
So, is max mha the best determaning indicator of battery health, or can it still show this high a value but drain power much faster than on a fresh battery?
The note 2 luckily has a changeable battery but i would like to actually determine whether a new one would make a significant difference and not just buy a new one just because mine is 4 years old. How do you guys go about it?
I recently replaced my Moto Z Play original battery with what I considered to be an original OEM from Moto service agent.
After installing my Battery app (Accubattery) tells me that its only reaching 2600 mAh charge with the system saying its 100% charged - on checking with the service agent the battery is marked as 3300 mAh noting that the phone is listed at approx 3500 mAh.
Alipay have various suppliers listing the GL30 battery and quote as 3300 mAh but also have a statement that capacity is - 2800 to 3800 mAh. Is this level of variance normal?
I am sure the Moto agent has used one of the Chinese suppliers but thats reasonable given the fact the phone's made there.
Should I be asking the service agent to replace the battery so I get upwards of 3000 mAh. The reasoning being that the drain is 30%+ quicker than when I originally purchased the phone and I paid full Moto price for the replacement battery.
Or is it that I have ended up with the best deal possible?
I assume you're the victim of a fake battery vendor. For original replacement, look at ifixit. They offer original motorola spare parts and batteries and replacement tutorials too
hamudistan said:
I assume you're the victim of a fake battery vendor. For original replacement, look at ifixit. They offer original motorola spare parts and batteries and replacement tutorials too
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Thanks for the reply.
I used original Moto Service agent so I'd expect them to use genuine batteries. I have seen a like battery from the egents stock and it was marked as 3300 mAh - but I can only reach 2600 mAh after 6 full charges.
If you check online the suppliers quote 3300mAh but go on to give a capacity range which can be anything down to 2800 mAh.
Confusing to me as the uneducated.
If you look here https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Moto-Z-Play-Replacement-Battery/IF368-005-2 and zoom at the battery picrure it says 3300 mAh
Hello,
I bought the Galaxy S20+ 2 days ago and apps already show me an estimated battery wear level / health of ~89% or 3908 mAh.
Apps I've tested:
AccuBattery Pro:
89%, 3908 mAh | Design-Capacity = 4370 mAh
Capacity Info:
93,2% 4075 mAh
Phone Info Samsung:
94%
Obviously they all calculate with the capacity of 4370 mAh and not with 4500 mAh, which I can still understand.
But what I don't understand is why the residual capacity 2 days after buying the phone is already 6-11% less than it should be.
Is this a reason for a warranty claim?
I bought in on Amazon from Amazon.
Thank you very much.
Flo
Ok, it's getting better and better now. AccuBattery is now showing 4317mAh / 4370mAh (would be 98,8%), yesterday even above 4400mAh, and now shows health of 92% and rising. I guess the calculation was just very unprecise and gets better every day.